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Old 01-01-2015, 08:02 PM
 
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The right should greet [the police slowdown] with the skepticism they'd typically summon for a rally on behalf of government workers as they seek higher pay, new work rules, and more generous benefits. What's unfolding in New York City is, at its core, a public-employee union using overheated rhetoric and emotional appeals to rile public employees into insubordination. The implied threat to the city's elected leadership and electorate is clear: cede leverage to the police in the course of negotiating labor agreements or risk an armed, organized army rebelling against civilian control. Such tactics would infuriate the right if deployed by any bureaucracy save law enforcement opposing a left-of-center mayor.

It ought to infuriate them now. Instead, too many are permitting themselves to be baited into viewing discord in New York City through the distorting lens of the culture war, so much so that Al Sharpton's name keeps coming up as if he's at the center of all this. Poppycock. Credit savvy police union misdirection.

More...The NYPD's Insubordination — and Why the Right Should Oppose It
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Old 01-01-2015, 08:05 PM
 
Location: NYC
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To prove my point even further NYPD Might Prove Broken Windows Is A Sham - Business Insider
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Old 01-01-2015, 08:25 PM
 
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I support the police treating thieves bullies robbers and rapists like ****.

I support the police not harassing people over bull**** revenue generating laws.
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Old 01-02-2015, 02:01 AM
 
Location: TX
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Let the liberal city rot again. Oh well learn the hard way.
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Old 01-02-2015, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Hmmm.. I wasn't privy to all the testimony the grand jury received so I could make such a determination. How did you get it? You must me psychic.... psychotic? I know it's something like that.

The entire world (including you) saw the video and heard the audio of the cops roughing up and killing Garner.

Playing dumb is the last refuge of a losing position. Feel free to remain there if that's your choice.

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Old 01-02-2015, 07:21 AM
 
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This is a terrible situation. De Blasio is a disgrace. He should obviously resign at once.
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Old 01-03-2015, 06:05 PM
 
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Were you afraid someone might offer you a .75 cent smoke?
Obviously your were not in NYC in the '70s, as it was dangerous.

75 cent smoke? Give me a break- the guy had 30 other arrests. How many arrests do you have?

The drug dealers and prostitutes were out in the open, as the cops did not seem to care. They had real crimes to deal with. Times square (which is fantastic today) was pull of porno shops.

Liberalism kills cities. Witness how well Detroit has done. Were you in San Fran 40 years ago? Apparently not- the city was beautiful then and has now deteriorated after decades of liberal rule.
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Old 01-03-2015, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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The entire world (including you) saw the video and heard the audio of the cops roughing up and killing Garner.

Playing dumb is the last refuge of a losing position. Feel free to remain there if that's your choice.

There is a difference between playing dumb and being uninformed. Neither you nor I know what information the grand jury had or what charges they were reviewing the evidence on. Perhaps they were given a murder indictment and couldn't justify a murder charge. Perhaps there is evidence of some kind that we (including you) are unaware of. From all I saw, I believe it is involuntary manslaughter, but I don't even know if that was offered as a charge to the grand jury. Do you? Perhaps the DA simply blew the case, I don't know, do you? Unless you have some mystic power that the rest of us are unaware of, you don't know anything the rest of us don't. But feel free to continue bloviating as per normal course.
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Old 01-03-2015, 07:10 PM
 
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Obviously your were not in NYC in the '70s, as it was dangerous.
I'm not sure how that is relevant to either what you or I said.

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75 cent smoke? Give me a break- the guy had 30 other arrests. How many arrests do you have?
The only things listed were relatively minor and nothing of a dangerous nature. If there had been we would have heard about it.

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The drug dealers and prostitutes were out in the open, as the cops did not seem to care. They had real crimes to deal with. Times square (which is fantastic today) was pull of porno shops.
No, they had their bribes to collect to continue to look the other way.

The Police Are Still Out of Control - Frank Serpico - POLITICO Magazine

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Liberalism kills cities. Witness how well Detroit has done. Were you in San Fran 40 years ago? Apparently not- the city was beautiful then and has now deteriorated after decades of liberal rule.
I also have no idea how this is relevant but it seems to me that San Fran is still a very desirable place to live.

I've actually thought about this and I find it funny. You trying to paint me into some liberal corner. Not long ago "righties" (which I was accused then of being) were complaining about Bloomberg trying to control things like how large of a soda one could buy in NYC. Now it seems perfectly fine to be arresting people for selling a single cigarette on the street because those taxes must be collected. You have to obey the laws mind you no matter how silly and harmful.

No, my position is far from the "liberal" argument here. My argument is against an out of control authoritarian government. The same thing Bloomberg was accused of last year.
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Old 01-03-2015, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Obviously your were not in NYC in the '70s, as it was dangerous.

75 cent smoke? Give me a break- the guy had 30 other arrests. How many arrests do you have?

The drug dealers and prostitutes were out in the open, as the cops did not seem to care. They had real crimes to deal with. Times square (which is fantastic today) was pull of porno shops.

Liberalism kills cities. Witness how well Detroit has done. Were you in San Fran 40 years ago? Apparently not- the city was beautiful then and has now deteriorated after decades of liberal rule.
San Francisco, Indiana? It can't be the one in California you are talking about, that city is doing just fine.
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