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Old 12-31-2014, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yes...................... "less harassment".

Apparently you were never in NYC in the '70s and early '80s. It was dirty, crime was high, drug dealers freely roamed the streets (smoke,dope,meth, speed, pill chant), and prostitutes came up to your car after 9 pm.

We always carried guns into the city, because it was not safe. The town stunk of garbage and urine and was a crap hole.

Gulliani turned the place into a very safe city. Tourists could take out cameras, dress like non-New Yorkers, and walk the streets with no fear. NYC turned into Disney Land North.

Currently, we cancelled two trips to NYC for 2015 due to concern over safety. DeBlasio is such a moron that he will kill the city over political correctness and idiocy. Let's see how NYC fares economically under DeBlasio.

Liberals destroy everything they touch- when will US citizens ever learn?
Yes Giuliani did a great job cleaning up the city but let's not forget the history of the NYC PD with the Central Park 5, Abner Louima and of course the corruption that was addressed by a Federal Commission back in the 1970's. The NYC Police do a great job and they have come a long way but this feeling that they need to react this way to any criticism looks like adolescent behavior, are they that perfect that they can't accept criticism. The issue has always been a lack of punishment to the very few that give the department a bad name.

If Patrick Lynch wanted to do something positive he could start by helping the administration in weeding out people that do not belong on the force instead of whining.
By the way Bloomberg was one of the most liberal mayors NYC had and also one of the best.
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:02 AM
 
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Yes Giuliani did a great job cleaning up the city but let's not forget the history of the NYC PD with the Central Park 5, Abner Louima and of course the corruption that was addressed by a Federal Commission back in the 1970's. The NYC Police do a great job and they have come a long way but this feeling that they need to react this way to any criticism looks like adolescent behavior, are they that perfect that they can't accept criticism. The issue has always been a lack of punishment to the very few that give the department a bad name.

If Patrick Lynch wanted to do something positive he could start by helping the administration in weeding out people that do not belong on the force instead of whining.
By the way Bloomberg was one of the most liberal mayors NYC had and also one of the best.
Be Blasio went way beyond simply criticizing a few cops. He basically called all NYC cops racists. He turned his back on them by pretending he and his appointed police brass 'broken windows' policy had nothing to do with the attempted arrest of Garner. It wasn't the beat cops who demanded strict enforcement of the law against selling loosies. At his press conference after the Garner decision, he not only criticized the decision, but who sat next to the mayor ? Of all people, Sharpton.

De Blasio turned his back to the cops, dropped pants, bent over, and said, take this you racist brutes.
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Be Blasio went way beyond simply criticizing a few cops. He basically called all NYC cops racists. He turned his back on them by pretending he and his appointed police brass 'broken windows' policy had nothing to do with the attempted arrest of Garner. It wasn't the beat cops who demanded strict enforcement of the law against selling loosies. At his press conference after the Garner decision, he not only criticized the decision, but who sat next to the mayor ? Of all people, Sharpton.

De Blasio turned his back to the cops, dropped pants, bent over, and said, take this you racist brutes.
He did not call all cops racists not sure where you got that from go back and read his statement, how's that even possible since half of the force is minority or women, he made a statement regarding his son. Other than that statement he had nothing but praise for the police.

He did not take sides in the Garner decision
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Austin
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He did not call all cops racists not sure where you got that from go back and read his statement, how's that even possible since half of the force is minority or women, he made a statement regarding his son. Other than that statement he had nothing but praise for the police.

He did not take sides in the Garner decision
That is your opinion.

I disagree completely with your assessment of De Blasio's statements.

So do the cops, the former Gov of NY, the former Mayor of NY, and numerous others.
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:48 AM
 
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He did not call all cops racists not sure where you got that from go back and read his statement, how's that even possible since half of the force is minority or women, he made a statement regarding his son. Other than that statement he had nothing but praise for the police.

He did not take sides in the Garner decision
IMO......he did take sides......against the cops.
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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He did not call all cops racists not sure where you got that from go back and read his statement, how's that even possible since half of the force is minority or women, he made a statement regarding his son. Other than that statement he had nothing but praise for the police.

He did not take sides in the Garner decision

DeBlasio said that he did not trust his MULATTO son around the NYPD. That is calling them "racists".
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Old 12-31-2014, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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DeBlasio said that he did not trust his MULATTO son around the NYPD. That is calling them "racists".
That's not what he stated but at least you got that out of your system , feel better. Maybe you can post the exact phrase since you missed his point.
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Old 12-31-2014, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Southern MN
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Here's the statement DeBlasio made,

"Chirlane and I have had to talk to Dante for years about the dangers that he may face. A good young man, law-abiding young man who would never think to do anything wrong. And yet, because of a history that still hangs over us, the dangers he may face, we’ve had to literally train him—as families have all over this city for decades—in how to take special care in any encounter he has with the police officers who are there to protect him.
And that painful sense of contradiction that our young people see first, that our police are here to protect us, and we honor that, and at the same time, there’s a history we have to overcome, because for so many of our young people, there’s a fear. And for so many of our families, there’s a fear. So I’ve had to worry over the years. Chirlane’s had to worry. Is Dante safe each night?
There are so many families in this city who feel that each and every night. Is my child safe? And not just from some of the painful realities—crime and violence in some of our neighborhoods—but is safe from the very people they want to have faith in as their protectors. That’s the reality."

The bolding part is mine and is the usual mistake almost all parents make which leads to problems.

Implying that his son is in more danger by the hand of police than by the hand of another person of color is a direct contradiction of the statistics to the contrary and that's why it appears to be an insult to the majority of law-abiding police officers.
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Old 12-31-2014, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The police did not kill him. He had a heart attack on the way to the hospital due to his pre-existing health problems.
The NYC medical examiner disagrees with your unsupported opinion.

Medical Examiner Rules Eric Garner's Death a Homicide, Says He Was Killed By Chokehold | NBC New York

Carry on.

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Old 12-31-2014, 08:19 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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That's not what he stated but at least you got that out of your system , feel better. Maybe you can post the exact phrase since you missed his point.
How Mayor de Blasio Warned His Own Son About His Police Force

He's a law abiding black kid, yet they worry about him and wonder if he's safe each night because of his color from the very people who are there to protect him, the NYPD.

You can parse that all you want but it has a very clear meaning: Dante should fear the police because he is black and they target blacks - whether they are breaking the law or not.

If that is not what de Blasio intended to say, he should retract or clarify his comments. But the cops know exactly what he meant.
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