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I couldn't agree more. This topic has been beat to death on this forum; but, these leftists continue to start thread after thread with the same meme, that the government "subsidizes" businesses that pay minimum wage for some positions.
There will always be minimum wage jobs available, and there will always be people who have not yet gained the skills for higher paying jobs.
You don't do anyone any favors by making it easy for them to remain in low skilled jobs. Raising the minimum wage, only decreases the number of jobs available for these low skilled workers, and endless welfare payments (which are transfer payments) does not encourage one to learn better skills. Making one comfortable in their "poverty" is not the way to improve lives.
What do you think will happen when a bunch of people for these jobs. The simple facts are there are not enough higher paying jobs for every poor person someone has to do these lower wage jobs for the companies to survive. If you do not understand this it is because you do not understand our economy.
It's funny my nephew works at a fast food place and HAS BEEN ALL THROUGH HIS SENIOR YEAR IN HIGH SCHOOL. Upon graduation at 18, he was made an Asst. Mgr. The owner sees the potential and he wants to groom him to be able to own his own store.
How long have you been working there?
I think we see the problem.
Let me ask you how many managers does that comapany? Let me guess less then employees the store has not all store employees can become managers fast food restaurants only need a couple.
In the year 2015 maybe about 25% of all jobs pay at a rate that allows full time workers to get government benefits. Even if the current people who are working in these jobs get training and move out of the low wage workplace someone else will take their place. So the argument that low wage workers just need to get more skills and education to move up does not really help the situation. Face it, no matter who is working in these jobs at any time, a large number of jobs in America pay under $10 an hour. And these are the jobs that are growing in today's economy. If you want a job, these are the jobs the typical American can get. And they are not jobs for kids and senior citizens anymore. Lots of the folks working at McDonalds are bring up a family on that job's income.
So, who should pay for the government benefits for the 25% of households whose primary bread winner is making $8 an hour or less than $20K a year?
Is it the responsibility of the employers of low wage labor? Or every taxpayer? Or should we just eliminate things like Food Stamps, reduced lunches at school, Medicaid, government paid housing, etc. for people who work?
Remember, someone is going to be doing these low wage jobs regardless of the hopes and dreams of people in them today.
What drivel.
What King of job killing, demented nonsense is this?
Why does anyone think a burger flipper is a profession?
In the year 2015 maybe about 25% of all jobs pay at a rate that allows full time workers to get government benefits. Even if the current people who are working in these jobs get training and move out of the low wage workplace someone else will take their place. So the argument that low wage workers just need to get more skills and education to move up does not really help the situation. Face it, no matter who is working in these jobs at any time, a large number of jobs in America pay under $10 an hour. And these are the jobs that are growing in today's economy. If you want a job, these are the jobs the typical American can get. And they are not jobs for kids and senior citizens anymore. Lots of the folks working at McDonalds are bring up a family on that job's income.
So, who should pay for the government benefits for the 25% of households whose primary bread winner is making $8 an hour or less than $20K a year?
Is it the responsibility of the employers of low wage labor? Or every taxpayer? Or should we just eliminate things like Food Stamps, reduced lunches at school, Medicaid, government paid housing, etc. for people who work?
Remember, someone is going to be doing these low wage jobs regardless of the hopes and dreams of people in them today.
So what you're saying is that you created a welfare state that failed and you can no longer sustain it, so now you want to shift the cost of it over to private business and demonize them to keep yourself looking like a saint. I think that about sums it up.
So what you're saying is that you created a welfare state that failed and you can no longer sustain it, so now you want to shift the cost of it over to private business and demonize them to keep yourself looking like a saint. I think that about sums it up.
Yup.
Businesses are not responsible for their employees using welfare. Not all jobs are intended to pay a livable wage. Many can't and allow the business to remain in business. I can't imagine forcing fast food chains to pay $30K/year or whatever a livable wage is deemed. What would an order of fries have to cost to sustain that?
In the year 2015 maybe about 25% of all jobs pay at a rate that allows full time workers to get government benefits. Even if the current people who are working in these jobs get training and move out of the low wage workplace someone else will take their place. So the argument that low wage workers just need to get more skills and education to move up does not really help the situation. Face it, no matter who is working in these jobs at any time, a large number of jobs in America pay under $10 an hour. And these are the jobs that are growing in today's economy. If you want a job, these are the jobs the typical American can get. And they are not jobs for kids and senior citizens anymore. Lots of the folks working at McDonalds are bring up a family on that job's income.
So, who should pay for the government benefits for the 25% of households whose primary bread winner is making $8 an hour or less than $20K a year?
Is it the responsibility of the employers of low wage labor? Or every taxpayer? Or should we just eliminate things like Food Stamps, reduced lunches at school, Medicaid, government paid housing, etc. for people who work?
Remember, someone is going to be doing these low wage jobs regardless of the hopes and dreams of people in them today.
No. It's your responsibility to live within your means.
Bad things happen to good people and there should be safety nets, but the belief that you can raise a family with minimal skills and minimum wage is your problem.
Wow. discuss cutting food stamps, and everyone on the right here cheers. Discuss companies not being subsidized by the state....and everyone here starts talking about the poor poor companies, and how dare we talk about making them pay the actual costs of their employees. The NERVE of us.
What King of job killing, demented nonsense is this?
Why does anyone think a burger flipper is a profession?
Why does anyone think that a significant portion of the jobs that require doing in our economy (like flipping burgers) should pay crappy wages? Why does anyone think it's okay to say, "we need people to do these jobs, and we need them to not make any money doing it"?
It's like one of those demented comic-book supervillains who makes the hero choose which person will die, and then raves about how "I didn't kill anyone, you are the one who made me do it". Except instead of a stupid comic book plot, it's taken as a serious macroeconomic argument for some reason.
With the growing number of poor you're going to have to find some other way to generate revenue for the government to pay for all these social programs.
Taxing the employer won't work.
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Yup. 
