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Old 01-23-2015, 12:05 PM
 
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Oh I see, the narrative is that the BUSINESS is getting welfare from the government because their skill-less workers are collecting welfare? Lefties have jumped the shark for sure here.
This might be the case if it was the businesses demanding the welfare. They are not. Burger King does not pretend to be a job you make a living at. It's a place to gain some work experience and make a few bucks.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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This might be the case if it was the businesses demanding the welfare. They are not. Burger King does not pretend to be a job you make a living at. It's a place to gain some work experience and make a few bucks.
Its a job. Simple as that. They don't say Come Work For us to make a few bucks and some experience and then leave! Nope...its simply a job and ANY job should pay a living wage.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:07 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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This might be the case if it was the businesses demanding the welfare. They are not. Burger King does not pretend to be a job you make a living at. It's a place to gain some work experience and make a few bucks.
You must not have gotten the memo; every job I america in which you work 40 ours at entitles you to be able to support a family of four with a retirement plan, healthcare and sick days. Just check out the SOTU address and obama lays it all out on the table.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:12 PM
 
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Its a job. Simple as that. They don't say Come Work For us to make a few bucks and some experience and then leave! Nope...its simply a job and ANY job should pay a living wage.
Yeah well, you are wrong. People all the time get a low level job, make a few bucks, get some experience and move on. Burger King is good with that because a new cashier is trained in a few hours and the cycle continues.

It works just fine. We will note, I have posted links showing the real problem and you have ignored them with no comment.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:15 PM
 
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Its a job. Simple as that. They don't say Come Work For us to make a few bucks and some experience and then leave! Nope...its simply a job and ANY job should pay a living wage.
Define living wage in objective, tangible, concrete terms.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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Actually it is the corporations. Wages have not kept up with the prices of things and should be jacked up to 15$ an hour AT LEAST.If a company can pay some douche bag in a suit and tie millions a year it can afford to pay every worker at least 35k a year.
Ha, ha.
You're one of those people who thinks they 'work hard' because they show up at 9 AM, clock in and then clock out at 5 PM.

That 'douche bag in a suit and tie' doesn't punch a clock. Usually, he's on the clock 24/7/365. He doesn't get to disconnect when he's on 'vacation'. He doesn't get to leave work on Friday and not worry about it until Monday.

That's the difference that you working class heros don't understand.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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After reading all 36 pages of this thread, it is clear that the conservative, right wing would make it a rule that no individual or couple could legally have children until they made at least 40,000 a year.
At the same time, they will do everything in their power to make abortion illegal for anybody, for any reason.

That's the whole point of the thread, "Raising a family on minimum wage" is really code for "people making minimum wage should be barred from breeding."

Bottom line.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:20 PM
 
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After reading all 36 pages of this thread, it is clear that the conservative, right wing would make it a rule that no individual or couple could legally have children until they made at least 40,000 a year.
At the same time, they will do everything in their power to make abortion illegal for anybody, for any reason.
I argued against the first point but I don't support abortion.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:25 PM
 
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No its not. NO PERSON should be working a job they can't make ends meet with. PERIOD.
Then that person has the following options:
1) work harder and try to be more valuable to your employer so you can be paid more
2) get a better education do you can develop skills that are in demand
3) adjust the ends you're trying to meet so they are more in line with what you make financially.
4) play the lottery and hope for the best
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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Yeah, but that's rarely the case. You realize how high the margins are on revenue a burger-flipper generates for McD's? The only exception I'd make for a high minimum wage is for small-business owners with revenue less than some calculated ceiling.
You realize you could pay a monkey with bananas and he'd be just as effective at the job as the guy making minimum wage?
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