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Old 01-08-2008, 06:35 AM
 
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France best, U.S. worst in preventable death ranking - Yahoo! News (broken link)

How much money could we save on health care, if we would finally start focusing on prevention, instead of just dealing with disease???
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Thanks for posting this Katz...and France has a socialist system does it not?

Not saying we have to do the same, but it would be refreshing if people would be able to wrap their minds around the fact that our health care system is not the best in the world as some politicians still try to claim, but is far from it. Health care reform should be one of the top issues for this election cycle.
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:45 AM
 
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Thanks for posting this Katz...and France has a socialist system does it not?

Not saying we have to do the same, but it would be refreshing if people would be able to wrap their minds around the fact that our health care system is not the best in the world as some politicians still try to claim, but is far from it. Health care reform should be one of the top issues for this election cycle.
yes, the french system is a socialist system. It is funded by workers salaries, taxes on alcohol and cigarettes and other taxes. People are free to chose their own doctors, too!
It is very highly rated and I'd be happy witht that system
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:46 AM
 
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One thing is for sure, we need some type of change to the US health care system.... one that will benefit the people, not the drug and insurance companies.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:46 AM
 
Location: America
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[sarcasm]this is communist propaganda, to try and change the moral fabric of American society and the principles of the founding fathers.[/sarcasm]

*sigh* i don't think we will ever "get it"
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:49 AM
 
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you know something is wrong when health insurance agencies make billions in profit...not even corrupt French politicians can achieve that. All together a universal health care plan is less costly to the public even though they increase the tax. Oh no, let's not forget....scary socialists....we dont wanna be like the big bad soviet union.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:56 AM
 
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Oh no, let's not forget....scary socialists....we dont wanna be like the big bad soviet union.
Yer darned right! Less socialized health care! More iPods! At least iPods are manufcatured in good old.............Chinese sweatshops???
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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The system may be termed "socialist" but like most European countries with universal healthcare the government is right wing ( in France for 12 years) ...

So even right-wing politicians in Europe believe in Universal healthcare and nobody would dare and touch it or do away with it.
There would be a revolution on the streets.

I think Europeans just feel health should not be a luxury but is a basic human right and IMO they are absolutely right.
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Journey's End
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Good to highlight how politics and political parties in Western Europe don't divide themselves on issues of quality of life but rather are united.

Having experienced the French, Dutch, Italian and British systems of health care, in small and large degrees, I'd say one of the strong points is their emphasis on prevention. And fewer meds, for medicine sake!

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The system may be termed "socialist" but like most European countries with universal healthcare the government is right wing ( in France for 12 years) ...

So even right-wing politicians in Europe believe in Universal healthcare and nobody would dare and touch it or do away with it.
There would be a revolution on the streets.

I think Europeans just feel health should not be a luxury but is a basic human right and IMO they are absolutely right.
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Hmmm. Speaking of preventable deaths, I guess no one remembers the heat wave which killed thousands of senior citizens in France in the summer of 2003 when the entire country went on vacation. An atrocity like this would have horrified Americans....


USATODAY.com - France heat wave death toll set at 14,802

More Than 11,000 (11,435) Heat Deaths in France <Increasing from 10,000>
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