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It's not the American medical professionals that are being denigrated, but the healthcare system.
I guess that what irks most completely out of their gourds is that France was rated number one. Iceland, Finland, and Greece also received higher ratings than the US.
It has been several years ago that the World health Organization rated France as number one in healthcare, the US didn't even score in the top ten.
America is a large country with millions of citizens, that's true. But America is also the richest nation on earth, America also spends the most money on healthcare.
The other nations are smaller, but also have less wealth. Being the world's wealthiest nation America should be leading the world in healthcare and setting precedents for healthcare that other nations could envy.
Sorry those statistics don't get calculated with "preventable" deaths otherwise all the other countries would look terrible against the U.S. health care system. Best way to convince the world that socialized health care is great is to use a lot of lies.. I mean statistics... people should really get away from statistics. The same set of statistics can be made to say the complete opposite with some minor "improvements"... I believe the W.H.O. supports a socialistic health care.. it would serve their interests..
Well if you or anyone else can provide a study backing the U.S. health care system as being a robust and positive model, or supporting these unfounded allegations that would certainly be interesting reading. You mention statistics leading to different results. Can you provide an example of this.
Supposedly superior France blew it in a way that America never has. Thousands of seniors paid with their lives. Your final paragraph is an exercise in rhetorical ruffles and flourishes which cannot conceal the fact that such a puiblic health catastrophe would not -- could not -- ever have happened in the supposedly inferior USA.
I don't think France is superior, I think the French healthcare system is. Big difference and I have used both the French and US systems as a patient.
But once again it's amazing how any challenging of US supremacy on any level is seen as some kind of anti-American rant or coming from sources with secret evil socialist hidden agenda. If it wasn't so tragic , it would be risible.
I find it so sad and pathetic that such jingoism is considered patriotism but whatever rocks your boat !!
The US rule, ra,ra, ra, there is nothing anywhere in the world that could ever be better on any level and anybody else who says so is a commie/socialist/left wing raving loonie who hates America and wants to see it fall. Does that make you feel better ? There, there don't fret nobody will take your bone from you.:rolleyes
I can accept criticism of my country and my adopted one too and am perfectly happy throwing the first stone if it warrants it. This does not make me a traitor to my country. Why is it so hard for some to accept that all is not well in the US?
I have never encountered such blind nationalism. It is actually quite frightening.
As the saying goes "thou does protest too much" etc... Are people afraid that not being top in everything makes you somehow weaker in the eyes of the world ?
I accept France has many flaws on many levels but it seems anyone being less than enthusiastic about the US is seen as some kind of un-patriotic monster. As someone brought up to challenge my Nation's policies and behaviour ( and there is much to criticise and challenge as I said) I will never understand such blind faith in one's country.
I don't think France is superior, I think the French healthcare system is. Big difference and I have used both the French and US systems as a patient.
But once again it's amazing how any challenging of US supremacy on any level is seen as some kind of anti-American rant or coming from sources with secret evil socialist hidden agenda. If it wasn't so tragic , it would be risible.
I find it so sad and pathetic that such jingoism is considered patriotism but whatever rocks your boat !!
The US rule, ra,ra, ra, there is nothing anywhere in the world that could ever be better on any level and anybody else who says so is a commie/socialist/left wing raving loonie who hates America and wants to see it fall. Does that make you feel better ? There, there don't fret nobody will take your bone from you.:rolleyes
I can accept criticism of my country and my adopted one too and am perfectly happy throwing the first stone if it warrants it. This does not make me a traitor to my country. Why is it so hard for some to accept that all is not well in the US?
I have never encountered such blind nationalism. It is actually quite frightening.
As the saying goes "thou does protest too much" etc... Are people afraid that not being top in everything makes you somehow weaker in the eyes of the world ?
I accept France has many flaws on many levels but it seems anyone being less than enthusiastic about the US is seen as some kind of un-patriotic monster. As someone brought up to challenge my Nation's policies and behaviour ( and there is much to criticise and challenge as I said) I will never understand such blind faith in one's country.
Thre is nothing remotely "nationalistic" about calling attention to the greatest public health disaster of modern times -- the 2003 heat wave holocaust in France, which was the direct result of a planned, socialist health care system -- and pointing out the lunacy of claiming France as the most advanced country in limiting preventable deaths.
Thre is nothing remotely "nationalistic" about calling attention to the greatest public health disaster of modern times -- the 2003 heat wave holocaust in France, which was the direct result of a planned, socialist health care system -- and pointing out the lunacy of claiming France as the most advanced country in limiting preventable deaths.
if you will remember I did not ignore it , I acknowledged it as being an appalling event which was terribly handled.
Still much better than the numbers claimed in the US through an appalling health system for decades.
if you will remember I did not ignore it , I acknowledged it as being an appalling event which was terribly handled.
Still much better than the numbers claimed in the US through an appalling health system for decades.
Statistics, please of any public health disaster which remotely aproaches France's summer of 2003?
As I pointed out previously, our "appalling" health care system treats a much larger and more disparate population than that of France, including immense numbers of illegal immigrants from Mexico.
France got blindsided by the heatwave but unlike the US they learned from their mistakes. They subsidized air conditioners for the elderly, installed public water fountains to be used in heat waves, and so on.
I lived in Europe for 4 years and you have to understand... not even the cars have AC. It is very rare and considered a luxury, heat waves are freakish things when they happen. Most people in Europe can deal with cold and rain more than they can heat.
BTW, hundreds of people die every summer in the US in the heat waves we have. It just doesn't make national news.
France got blindsided by the heatwave but unlike the US they learned from their mistakes. They subsidized air conditioners for the elderly, installed public water fountains to be used in heat waves, and so on.
I lived in Europe for 4 years and you have to understand... not even the cars have AC. It is very rare and considered a luxury, heat waves are freakish things when they happen. Most people in Europe can deal with cold and rain more than they can heat.
BTW, hundreds of people die every summer in the US in the heat waves we have. It just doesn't make national news.
And it isn't the result of a system where all the docs are on vacation at the same time.
I hope everyone realizes how absurd it is to defend societies which, while being eons ahead of the ignorant Americans in understanding global warming, are given a pass for being unprepared for fluctuations in temperature in the summer...
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