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So what's that have to do with anything? Police can seize the guns of criminals in areas with permissive concealed carry laws to . The only thing your restrictive laws do is ensure that only the criminals are walking the streets armed.
Actually many of the guns the DC police seize are from low lifes who can legally carry in permissive states.
people who say guns are evil or they don't need one have never used nor know what a gun is. Its like saying I am a man I don't need a hammer. LOL maybe you don't I do. I need a lot of tools and a gun is a tool. I have guns that shoot bullets, some that shoot nails, one that uses 22lr bullet banks to shoot nails into concrete. I have glue guns that shoot hot glue, calk guns that shoot all kinds of things and a paint gun that shoots paint. Depends on what I am shooting. You liberals don't understand tools because you don't work.
I understand tools and guns fine. I can shoot any gun you might own and hit my target. I need a hammer, a caulk gun, a nail gun, etc. I don't need a handgun. The lock on my front door is sufficient. If that fails I have a telephone and a dog.
In Heller the Court left control of guns outside the home within the control of state and local governments. At the appeals level an absolute ban has been ruled too restrictive, but "good cause" has been determined to be a constitutionally valid criteria.
No, they didn't. In fact, no matter how many times Commie-fornia, No-York, and No-Jersey want to try and cite it in legal briefs the SCOTUS ruling in Heller did not undermine, undercut, nor rule against carry outside the home. In fact, the SCOTUS ruled that the Second Amendment is the right to "Keep and CARRY a firearm in case of confrontation". I've read the decision in it's entirety at least twice, including the dissents.
"Good Cause" has ONLY held up in the CA 2, 3, and 4 with the reasoning that I stated. Everywhere else it has failed miserably with actual constitutional arguments instead of punts (4th), outright lies (3rd), and complete alternate realities (2nd). The 9th's ruling in Peruta along with the Chicago case Moore are frameworks of courts actually making a ruling based on constitutional garuntee's and compare favorably to the others because they actually cite historical facts, arguments by the founders, and hard data sent by the FBI. Compare the Second Circus' statement of "We do not arm people in case of imaginary conflict" to the Moore and Peruta cases and you will see that the Second comes off sounding like a petulant child writing gibberish for a book report.
Ask yourself this: If Moore was such a strong case to appeal after the 7th Circuit ruled that CCW was a right and the SCOTUS was going to rule, as you state, that it wasn't a right but a privilege granted by the state why did national anti-gun groups, Bloomberg, and anti-gun state AG's plead with Madigan (Illinois Stage AG) to not appeal the case to the SCOTUS?
The court did not rule specifically on whether or not carry outside the home is protected. That was not what the case was about, and the court made clear that they were not ruling on that issue in Heller. Nothing is stopping them from taking up that issue specifically and ruling that carry outside the home is or is not protected. In fact, some say it's almost a certainty that the issue will be taken up by SCOTUS, now that there's a split in the circuit courts.
Heller asked for the court to limit DC's ability to restrict carry outside the house. The court let DC's restrictions stand. It's what the court does when they don't overturn a law.
Heller asked for the court to limit DC's ability to restrict carry outside the house. The court let DC's restrictions stand. It's what the court does when they don't overturn a law.
And Palmer had them rule that CCW was a right and that DC must issue as well as allow out-of-DC have some method of carry within DC.
I understand tools and guns fine. I can shoot any gun you might own and hit my target. I need a hammer, a caulk gun, a nail gun, etc. I don't need a handgun. The lock on my front door is sufficient. If that fails I have a telephone and a dog.
No one's judging you for the personal decision you've made, relying on a lock, a phone, and a dog.
Heller asked for the court to limit DC's ability to restrict carry outside the house. The court let DC's restrictions stand. It's what the court does when they don't overturn a law.
Lol, that was not what Heller was about. Heller was about DC's ban on handguns, and the requirement that guns be stored unloaded and disassembled.
Actually many of the guns the DC police seize are from low lifes who can legally carry in permissive states.
Are these low lifes prosecuted and incarcerated for illegal possession of a firearm?
Your description of them being a "low life" leads me to believe they have a prior criminal record.
If that's the case then they cannot legally carry anywhere.
Firearm/Unlawful Possession of Firearm: According to the D.C. Criminal Code, it is illegal to own or possess a firearm in the District of Columbia if the person: (1) is a drug addict, (2) has ever been convicted of a felony, either in D.C or anywhere else in the United States, (3) has ever been convicted of a firearms charge, (4) has ever been convicted of certain misdemeanor charges (e.g., crimes of domestic violence), or (5) is subject to a civil protection order. This is the offense typically referred to as Felon in Possession of a Firearm. It is also illegal for a third party to provide a firearm to a person the third party knows is not otherwise eligible to possess the firearm. The penalty for being a felon in possession of a firearm is a mandatory minimum term of 1 year imprisonment that cannot be suspended and a maximum of 10 years. Other forms of unlawful possession of a firearm are punishable by 2 to 10 years in prison and/or a fine of up to $15,000. D.C. Criminal Code 22-4503.
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Are these low lifes prosecuted and incarcerated for illegal possession of a firearm?
Oh, hold on a minute, I can think of one of these "low lifes" that DCForever is probably talking about........
One David Gregory, who paraded around on national television with a 30 round magazine in violation of DC's gun laws, even after permission to use it on the show was denied by the district. Except for some reason, he wasn't prosecuted. I guess DC's laws only apply to the some people, and not to others.
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