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Comparing gun deaths in the US to other countries that have stricter gun laws will show it's isn't working out so well.
Comparing trends in overall violent crime in US states with less strict gun laws to the trends in overall violent crime in US states and countries with more strict gun laws, will show that it is working out very well. The problem isn't guns or access to guns by the law-abiding, the problem is criminals, and disarming the victims is just OSHA for criminals.
Putting in higher barriers to lawful ownership mostly serves to just disarm people who are less well off, doesn't stop criminals. We see this today with the restrictions in place on both purchase and concealed carry in states like Illinois; estimates place the total cost of legally owning and carrying a handgun somewhere north of a thousand bucks, plus about 40 hours (actual time spent in class, in line, in transit, plus weeks or months waiting for paperwork).
Or look at the various "permit to purchase" systems around the country.
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The argument about cars is deflection. There are regulations regarding cars and they have changed over the years...seatbelts weren't a requirement at one time, airbags etc. Regulations regarding driving licenses also have evolved in many places to a graduated system. All these changes are done in the name of safety.
That's the other concern -- maybe the system starts out simple, but there is a whole industry of people, funded by billionaires, looking to turn a simple training requirement into registration and further restriction, all in the name of safety.
Exactly. Where do these questions come from? To ask the question is a display of the lack of knowledge, understanding and appreciation for the US Constitution and a failure to grasp the basic meaning of a right. Before asking the question posed in the thread, perhaps imposing such a measure on the right of free speech is in order, thus eliminating questions like that in the first place. Helllllloooooo? It is a right, not a privilege , not something granted because you pass some test.
Felons can't buy guns. Where does the Second Amendment say that? You can't run into a crowded theater and yell "FIRE!" Where does the First Amendment say that?
Comparing trends in overall violent crime in US states with less strict gun laws to the trends in overall violent crime in US states and countries with more strict gun laws, will show that it is working out very well. The problem isn't guns or access to guns by the law-abiding, the problem is criminals, and disarming the victims is just OSHA for criminals.
Putting in higher barriers to lawful ownership mostly serves to just disarm people who are less well off, doesn't stop criminals. We see this today with the restrictions in place on both purchase and concealed carry in states like Illinois; estimates place the total cost of legally owning and carrying a handgun somewhere north of a thousand bucks, plus about 40 hours (actual time spent in class, in line, in transit, plus weeks or months waiting for paperwork).
Or look at the various "permit to purchase" systems around the country.
That's the other concern -- maybe the system starts out simple, but there is a whole industry of people, funded by billionaires, looking to turn a simple training requirement into registration and further restriction, all in the name of safety.
Comparing violent crime stats between countries get very tricky as different countries classify different crimes differently AND reporting of crimes varies as well.
That's why gun deaths is easier to compare.
Accidental death prevention is probably going to get better results. Hence the OP's suggestion. In many ways it's too late for the US.
The fact that there are a lot of responsible gun owners ( I know some ) didn't stop criminals from getting their hands on some of those guns. Simple math is that the more guns there are, the more deaths by guns.
Comparing gun deaths in the US to other countries that have stricter gun laws will show it's isn't working out so well.
The argument about cars is deflection. There are regulations regarding cars and they have changed over the years...seatbelts weren't a requirement at one time, airbags etc.
Regulations regarding driving licenses also have evolved in many places to a graduated system. All these changes are done in the name of safety.
I've never understood the defence that people shouldn't try and fix one issue because another issue exists.
Are people and governments not capable of doing more than one thing at a time? Silly to think that they shouldn't.
Gun control works in China. Just what are you trying to say?
It has been a demonstrated fact that the more people that have guns the less crime is attempted.
Violant crime has dropped largely due to the fact more people than ever have been buying guns for self protection and criminals are getting more careful.
Even a fool knows better then to put his hand in a fire , But if some one determined ,commonsense doesn't matter any way.
If your so adamant against guns, hang a sign on your door to that effect.
I'm sure the rest of the world would like to know. You do want them to know you are unarmed right ?
Guns are a fact of life like gasoline and electricity they are available , and it's not just guns but so many other forms of defense and offense, not to mention hand to hand.
At what point do out law every single little tool that has ever been used to kill people . cut every one's hands off ????
It is time to take personal responsibility fro your own security and stop throwing it off on some one else .
1. be aware of you environment
2. you KNOW where trouble is , don't go there.
3. get training and practice in self defense , there are too many provisions for this to act as though there aren't.
4. The most effective defense is a good offense ,be armed better then the aggressor . skill and or tools
5. Take responsibility for the situation
6. If there is an emergency ,ACT ,and be trained so you know how to act.
GROW UP and stop being a facilitator to some ones abuse.
The problem is phrase focused believers. "for the children...", "in the name of safety...", they provide the standard to do anything without regard for rights. Notice however that when it comes to their own agendas, suddenly rights become so important and they even try to make privileges rights. Take the right to a living wage or job. There are no such rights but wait, it is for the children, cant have them go hungry right? If these people really wanted to do something about saving lives, they'd find so many opportunities that don't involve infringing on Constitutional rights but they all have a different agenda. Every one of them has no problem with gun ownership so long as they get to decide who has them and anyone who doesn't think like they do are also those they want to oppress.
Felons can't buy guns. Where does the Second Amendment say that? You can't run into a crowded theater and yell "FIRE!" Where does the First Amendment say that?
It's completely ridiculous how people think that they can interpret the constitution any way that suits them, completely oblivious to case law and precedent.
Your rights end where someone else's begin. The First Amendment doesn't give you carte blanche to say whatever the **** you want (see what I did there?). The Second Amendment doesn't mean that carrying a gun in your glove box means you're in a militia and it certainly doesn't prevent the federal government from restricting all sorts of other weapons. The Third Amendment doesn't mean that soldiers can't ever stay on your property. The Fourth Amendment doesn't mean that you can't be searched - regardless of how unreasonable you might think it is.
What part of "Shall not be infringed" don't you understand?
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