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Old 02-24-2015, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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16 Myths About Gender Confirmation Surgery

Sadly the people who need to read this the most are the ones who will likely ignore it but here's a few very powerful quotes:

2. ‘These people need therapy, not surgery.’

I have been over this before. They tried for decades to change people’s gender identities, the same way they tried to change sexual orientation. Drugs. Therapy. Electroshock therapy. Lobotomies. Institutionalization.
It doesn’t work.

11. ‘I’m actually a feline trapped in a human’s body. Can I get can surgery to make me a cat?’

Also known as the “I think I’m funny, but I’m not” answer. Generally used by guys who watch South Park.
When people use this argument, they assume that transgender people are mentally ill (they’re not), assume it’s a delusion that can be cured (wrong), and ignores one key fact:
People can naturally be mentally hardwired to identify as male or female. Sometimes the wiring and the equipment don’t synch up during development.
We have 40-plus years of neuroscience research basically telling us gender identity and body image are written early on in development, and sometimes they don’t match.
People, however, do not naturally identify as a cat or other non-human animal.

15. ‘It doesn’t change your DNA,’

This is irrelevant. There are lots of intersex people whose identities vary from their chromosomes.
The relevant part of the discussion is whether GCS is medically necessary (it is in the opinion of everyone who matters) and if it significantly improves quality of life (it does).
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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If you are born with a penis, you are a man. Anything else is baloney.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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If you are born with a penis, you are a man. Anything else is baloney.
That pretty much destroys the OP's line of reasoning.

Thread fail.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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If you are born with a penis, you are a man. Anything else is baloney.
What happens when you factor in people born with both genitals?

This over simplified logic is incompatible with the complexity of human life.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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What happens when you factor in people born with both genitals?

This over simplified logic is incompatible with the complexity of human life.
You go with whats dominant. But hermaphrodite is not the issue.

Next.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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You go with whats dominant.

Next.
That's not an answer. How do you know 'whats dominant?'

I read an article a while back about a baby born with both. The parents decided they wanted a girl so the chopped off the child's penis (it's also easier to remove). 11 years later, they child was asking when their penis was going to grow? Why? Because she was actually a he.

There's not a single piece of scientific research that suggests that your over simplified analysis of the issue is sufficient in dealing with the overall problem.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:47 AM
 
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That's not an answer. How do you know 'whats dominant?'

I read an article a while back about a baby born with both. The parents decided they wanted a girl so the chopped off the child's penis (it's also easier to remove). 11 years later, they child was asking when their penis was going to grow? Why? Because she was actually a he.

There's not a single piece of scientific research that suggests that your over simplified analysis of the issue is sufficient in dealing with the overall problem.
There is no problem with 99% of the gender confused.

If you have a pair and a dangler you are a male.

End of story.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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That pretty much destroys the OP's line of reasoning.

Thread fail.
Simple reasoning for simple people. You refute nothing and I doubt either of you read the article.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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That's not an answer. How do you know 'whats dominant?'

I read an article a while back about a baby born with both. The parents decided they wanted a girl so the chopped off the child's penis (it's also easier to remove). 11 years later, they child was asking when their penis was going to grow? Why? Because she was actually a he.

There's not a single piece of scientific research that suggests that your over simplified analysis of the issue is sufficient in dealing with the overall problem.
It's easy for people so wrapped up in bigotry to dismiss anything that refutes their simplistic world view. We live in a world full of colour and they see only in black and white. I pity them and knew exactly who would respond in such a fashion. Once again the same people live down to my expectations.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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There is no problem with 99% of the gender confused.

If you have a pair and a dangler you are a male.

End of story.
If you wish to continue saying this, be my guest. But all it is doing is affirming you're profound lack of scientific literacy.
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