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Old 03-15-2015, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I agree; if I had to bet right now I'd bet that it will be completed, but I also think that if big bertha got stuck once, there's a chance it will get stuck again, and at that point there will be a lot of people who want to scrap it. But I agree that only time will tell.

The first 1000 feet was done in about 6 months, If they restart in Aug. 2015 and match that pace, it will take until Fall 2019 before they finish drilling the 1.7 mile tunnel. Then it will open in 2020, or maybe early 2021, just about 20 years since the Nisqually quake. JFK announced that we were going to the moon in May, 1961. Just over 8 years later, July 1969, Neil Armstrong was on the moon.
And the Empire State Building was built in two years...
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Old 03-15-2015, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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I hate that federal funds are being used for projects, like this.

You choose to do business and live in an earthquake/hurricane/ fire/ flood etc. prone area, pay for it.
How about using federal funds for boondogles like this?
Novelty Hill Road Safety Enhancement Project - King County Road Services

A whopping 13 deer were hit along that road in 15 YEARS, no human injuries or fatalities but that didn't stop them from spending millions of federal dollars. Now multiply that across the entire country, what a waste.

What's even more funny? There is a cross walk that people have to use about 50 yards from this bridge. That's right, people have to cross traffic in the street but they built a bridge for animals.

Some people around here acted like it was free because it was federal dollars being spent on it, like so many on the left they're totally out of touch with where "free" money actually comes from.
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Old 03-15-2015, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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And the Empire State Building was built in two years...
They can't even get a short animal bridge built across a 2 lane road in 2 years in the Seattle area today.
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Old 03-15-2015, 04:12 PM
 
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Sounds like the Boston big dig but of course like many the original cost was way under estimated to get funded.Ole Teddy took care of it.
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Old 03-15-2015, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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They can't even get a short animal bridge built across a 2 lane road in 2 years in the Seattle area today.
And? Everything is different, and the time frames vary for that reason.
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Old 03-15-2015, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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And? Everything is different, and the time frames vary for that reason.
Time frames with most things have compressed. It's increasingly tough for humans to keep up with the rate of tech improvement. The laptop you had five years ago should be a paperweight but you're still using it.

But with gov't projects it seems to be the other way around. The Rosellini bridge was built in 3 years, we went to the moon in 8 years, and a 1.7 mile tunnel takes 13 years. Progress, right?
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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People in Seattle saw how much money and time was spent in Boston on their boondoggle project so why not the same in Seattle.
Meanwhile, south of them in California, some up dates to the high speed rail boondoggle. in 2008, a link between L.A. and San Francisco was projected to cost $33 billion and the trip was supposed to be 3 hours. Cost has doubled, now projected to cost $68 billion and the trip will now be 4 hours. Rider use has been revised. Originally 90 million riders annually to only 30 million and the ticket price has increased from $50 to $80 [one way]
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Time frames with most things have compressed. It's increasingly tough for humans to keep up with the rate of tech improvement. The laptop you had five years ago should be a paperweight but you're still using it.

But with gov't projects it seems to be the other way around. The Rosellini bridge was built in 3 years, we went to the moon in 8 years, and a 1.7 mile tunnel takes 13 years. Progress, right?
I bought my laptop 6 months ago and I am currently updating my desktop. As for trying to figure out timeframes, a 1.7 mile tunnel also has to bore under a heavily populated city. Not everything can be done in a year or two.
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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People in Seattle saw how much money and time was spent in Boston on their boondoggle project so why not the same in Seattle.
Meanwhile, south of them in California, some up dates to the high speed rail boondoggle. in 2008, a link between L.A. and San Francisco was projected to cost $33 billion and the trip was supposed to be 3 hours. Cost has doubled, now projected to cost $68 billion and the trip will now be 4 hours. Rider use has been revised. Originally 90 million riders annually to only 30 million and the ticket price has increased from $50 to $80 [one way]
Sure, Seattle could have just sat on their hands and waited for the next big earthquake to bring it down and potentially cost countless lives and have a much higher pricetag for clean up and rebuilding.
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Old 03-16-2015, 07:05 AM
 
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But with gov't projects it seems to be the other way around. The Rosellini bridge was built in 3 years, we went to the moon in 8 years
Each moon landing, in today's dollars, was $18 billion ( Apollo program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ). Yes, each time we sent men to the moon, it cost us less than the Boston tunnel that is 3.5 miles long.
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