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Old 03-16-2015, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Each moon landing, in today's dollars, was $18 billion ( Apollo program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ). Yes, each time we sent men to the moon, it cost us less than the Boston tunnel that is 3.5 miles long.
That would be because they are two completely different things.
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Old 03-16-2015, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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I bought my laptop 6 months ago and I am currently updating my desktop. As for trying to figure out timeframes, a 1.7 mile tunnel also has to bore under a heavily populated city. Not everything can be done in a year or two.

....when bureaucrats and public unions are involved.
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Old 03-16-2015, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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....when bureaucrats and public unions are involved.
Actually, more often it is when the public is involved. Especially if it deals with property owners and neighborhoods or districts.
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Old 03-16-2015, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Sure, Seattle could have just sat on their hands and waited for the next big earthquake to bring it down and potentially cost countless lives and have a much higher pricetag for clean up and rebuilding.
Seattle did in fact sit on its hands and wait.. The quake was in Feb, 2001. The vote (in which the tunnel option was rejected by voters) was in 2007. Construction did not start until 2011. Completion, if ever, will probably not be until after 2020.
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Old 03-16-2015, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Actually, more often it is when the public is involved. Especially if it deals with property owners and neighborhoods or districts.

I guess the mayor of Seattle doesn't have a pen...
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Old 03-16-2015, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Each moon landing, in today's dollars, was $18 billion ( Apollo program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ). Yes, each time we sent men to the moon, it cost us less than the Boston tunnel that is 3.5 miles long.
Thanks, I'm going to remember that factoid. And remember that in the 1960's computer technology was in infancy. Engineers were still using slide rules and drafting tables. Project costs should be dramatically lower today, and doubtless are everywhere except in government.
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Old 03-16-2015, 04:03 PM
 
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Each moon landing, in today's dollars, was $18 billion ( Apollo program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ). Yes, each time we sent men to the moon, it cost us less than the Boston tunnel that is 3.5 miles long.
Have you been to Cape Canaveral to see what they used? For example, the Apollo Command Module?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_...n_V_Centre.JPG


It's great that it worked but it does not inspire confidence.
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Old 03-16-2015, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Seattle did in fact sit on its hands and wait.. The quake was in Feb, 2001. The vote (in which the tunnel option was rejected by voters) was in 2007. Construction did not start until 2011. Completion, if ever, will probably not be until after 2020.
True, they should have done this in the 90s, but at least it is finally being done.
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Old 03-16-2015, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Well, it looks like I won't be visiting Seattle any time soon. I went to Boston during their "Big Dig" and I definitely learned my lesson. Almost ruined by whole trip.
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Old 03-16-2015, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Well, it looks like I won't be visiting Seattle any time soon. I went to Boston during their "Big Dig" and I definitely learned my lesson. Almost ruined by whole trip.
I highly doubt this would have any effect for you if you visited Seattle because what is being done there is nothing like what was done in Boston.
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