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Please. You dont have a lot of experience with construction work do you? Who is governing really is irrelevant.
How can you say that "[w]ho is governing really is irrelevant?" This is a public sector project, and those who are governing are in charge of it. How can they be irrelevant?
How can you say that "[w]ho is governing really is irrelevant?" This is a public sector project, and those who are governing are in charge of it. How can they be irrelevant?
But those that are governing are not the construction company that was contracted to construct this project.
How can you say that "[w]ho is governing really is irrelevant?" This is a public sector project, and those who are governing are in charge of it. How can they be irrelevant?
I think he meant when speaking about the government what we generally get is incompetence no matter who is running things.
With that I agree. Just look to Iraq for a great example.
How can you say that "[w]ho is governing really is irrelevant?" This is a public sector project, and those who are governing are in charge of it. How can they be irrelevant?
Well, he can say it because Democrats are in charge. It's that simple.
I'm sorry but some of you people really just like to complain a lot... building a highway tunnel under downtown Seattle isn't the easiest task and for sure something you shouldn't rush... but whatever, you guys play your political labeling games all you want.
I'm sorry but some of you people really just like to complain a lot... building a highway tunnel under downtown Seattle isn't the easiest task and for sure something you shouldn't rush... but whatever, you guys play your political labeling games all you want.
True, if this thread was actually about the topic of a new highway tunnel in Seattle it would be in the Seattle forum and not the political forum. The OP had the intention of making this all about politics from the beginning.
In situations like this, what do you think wins in the end. The carrot at the end of the stick saying if you finish on time you get a bonus, or the stick saying if you don't finish on time you lose money?
Private construction contractors like Bechtel know the answer, it is finish on time to avoid costly penalties. They get many government contracts and typically love to bid on contracts with penalties. Why, because they know they can deliver, bonus or not.
But the contractors who low bid on incentives are willing to say screw it, we will at least make XYZ even if we run over.
If I were in city or state government, I'd demand the contract bidding be based on penalties for not finishing on time, with the OPTION of rewarding companies for finishing on time, and all goals having been achieved AFTER INSPECTION(i.e. trust but verify).
True, if this thread was actually about the topic of a new highway tunnel in Seattle it would be in the Seattle forum and not the political forum. The OP had the intention of making this all about politics from the beginning.
Of course it is a political topic. It's a project that was decided by and run by politicians. There was even a vote on it (abeit ignored by the politcos). How is it not about politics? I could have posted it in the Seattle forum, but I thought that there might be interest from people outside of Seattle, which I think has been proven out by the replies.
Either way it is a political topic, as with any government spending or action. How could it be otherwise?
Of course it is a political topic. It's a project that was decided by and run by politicians. There was even a vote on it (abeit ignored by the politcos). How is it not about politics? I could have posted it in the Seattle forum, but I thought that there might be interest from people outside of Seattle, which I think has been proven out by the replies.
Either way it is a political topic, as with any government spending or action. How could it be otherwise?
True, if this thread was actually about the topic of a new highway tunnel in Seattle it would be in the Seattle forum and not the political forum. The OP had the intention of making this all about politics from the beginning.
As is often times the case the problem is how it is done. Politicians will say (making the numbers up) that a project will cost $20 million dollars knowing full well it's going to end up costing far more.
They will take bids from entities knowing they are in the end going to get far more than they bid.
Put it out for a bid. Accept a bid. If the firm then can't do it for that, they lose money or go out of business.
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