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Old 03-18-2015, 03:04 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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That's really unfortunate. For Israel, for the Middle East and for the United States to be a pawn to Israeli foreign policy.
There will never be peace in the Middle East now. Israel will never give up the West Bank, Jerusalem will be their exclusive capital, instead of an open city and the Palestinians will never have their own state. Kiss any deal short of war out of the Iran picture and America will do the fighting and dying for Israel.

A right wing Netanyahu Israeli government, in league with the right wing conservative faction in America, spell disaster for America, The Middle East and the world.

Democratic institutions ruled by autocratic nationalist right wingers is never a good formula.
Are you that clueless to not know then when Israel was under Left (Labor & Kadima) leadership it had more rocket attacks, more suicide bombings and the '67/'73 war then under Right leadership? That the Gaza disengagement and removal of all Jews from Gaza actually increased the rocket attacks against Israeli civilians?

Here is the list of Israeli leaders and see what side the leadership each time Israeli civilians were under attack:
List of Prime Ministers of Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There has never been Peace in the Middle East since the end of WW1. Do you really think that if Israel went Left Peace would break out? Really? Do you think that if Israel ceased to exist that all the Arabs in the region would become buddies and automatically stop killing each other? Extremely more Arabs have died under the hands of other Arabs then Palestinians (even with their inflated numbers) under Israel. The Palestinians had multiple offers of statehood and turned them all down because they wanted to be seen as victorious in wars they lost. As at this point them being given the West Bank is now off the table. Past 1948 Jerusalem was supposed to be an International city. It wasn't one until 1967 when it came under Israeli control. So no, Jerusalem will never be under Arab control again and be like Mecca is where only Muslims are allowed in.

Iran? It will be in a cold war with the world until Obama leaves office. When the next US president walks in within the next two years we'll see of Iran stays in a cold war or the US grows a set and takes them out.

And finally, maybe you should look up the definition of Autocratic before using it in relation to Israel. Because if you did, you'd find that nearly every Arab country in the Middle East is Autocratic including the Palestinians (they disbanded their own council within a year of the 2006 elections and have had none since then).

Elections in the Palestinian National Authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 
Old 03-18-2015, 04:18 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Default Netanyahu claims Victory, as opponent Concedes! Yes!

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I'm not really sure who is advising this man and what he is trying to accomplish. Moderate Israelis support a two-state solution and so did Bibi until the day before the election. He needs more votes to win, not less. So if he loses, will Republicans still be pro-Israel?
Bibi's back!

Praise God! The Lord takes care of Israel. Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes | Fox News

This should stand. I'm so happy. Many of us (of course not "Liberals") have been praying for his victory.

This is doubly sweet, since Obama gave taxpayer money to an organization working to defeat him, and even sent his minions to Israel to campaign against Bibi (even while the Leftists lambasted 47 Republicans sending an open letter to Iranian leaders).

Wish our President was a leader like Netanyahu. Instead of confronting out enemies, Obama makes deals with them, which work to their advantage, not ours. Obama is to cowardly to confront them and take a stand. Let's hope his "Iran deal" now goes up in flames.
 
Old 03-18-2015, 04:18 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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I'm not really sure who is advising this man and what he is trying to accomplish. Moderate Israelis support a two-state solution and so did Bibi until the day before the election. He needs more votes to win, not less. So if he loses, will Republicans still be pro-Israel?
What was your point? Obama should apologize for his childish behavior.
 
Old 03-18-2015, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I'm not really sure who is advising this man and what he is trying to accomplish. Moderate Israelis support a two-state solution and so did Bibi until the day before the election. He needs more votes to win, not less. So if he loses, will Republicans still be pro-Israel?
Bibi knows that RWNJs love flip floppers, so why not use them. We in the US have proven that is good move.
 
Old 03-18-2015, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Netanyahu's comments during the election don't bode well for the future of Israel's foreign countries, I think we knew he didn't agree with a 2 state solution at least now it is out in the open. His statements regarding the Arabs are going to be problematic for the new administration, electing aq hard liner hasn't worked well in the past they can expect more of the same.
 
Old 03-18-2015, 05:32 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Netanyahu's comments during the election don't bode well for the future of Israel's foreign countries, I think we knew he didn't agree with a 2 state solution at least now it is out in the open. His statements regarding the Arabs are going to be problematic for the new administration, electing aq hard liner hasn't worked well in the past they can expect more of the same.
Iran now going to plan-B. And so-called two state solution would only put - off the inevitable. Let's rock & roll.
 
Old 03-18-2015, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Bibi's back!

Praise God! The Lord takes care of Israel. Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes | Fox News

This should stand. I'm so happy. Many of us (of course not "Liberals") have been praying for his victory.

This is doubly sweet, since Obama gave taxpayer money to an organization working to defeat him, and even sent his minions to Israel to campaign against Bibi (even while the Leftists lambasted 47 Republicans sending an open letter to Iranian leaders).

Wish our President was a leader like Netanyahu. Instead of confronting out enemies, Obama makes deals with them, which work to their advantage, not ours. Obama is to cowardly to confront them and take a stand. Let's hope his "Iran deal" now goes up in flames.
Unfortunately your happiness stems from the fact that you see this hurting Obama rather than from the fact that Netanyahu's won. That's the worst kind of "happiness".

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This is doubly sweet, since Obama gave taxpayer money to an organization working to defeat him, and even sent his minions to Israel to campaign against Bibi (even while the Leftists lambasted 47 Republicans sending an open letter to Iranian leaders).
That remains an unproven rumor. Under Obama US has funneled more aid money to Israel than under any other US president before him.

Netanyahu is a fine PM for Israel. I think the other guy would have been fine too, but of course Bibi has a ton of experience already.
 
Old 03-18-2015, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Iran now going to plan-B. And so-called two state solution would only put - off the inevitable. Let's rock & roll.
I think the two state solution will be back on the table now that elections are over.
 
Old 03-18-2015, 06:41 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Netanyahu's comments during the election don't bode well for the future of Israel's foreign countries, I think we knew he didn't agree with a 2 state solution at least now it is out in the open. His statements regarding the Arabs are going to be problematic for the new administration, electing aq hard liner hasn't worked well in the past they can expect more of the same.
All he did was state the truth that no one was willing to state publicly. Over the past 48 years the Palestinians were offered statehood numerous times and the Palestinians turned them all down. The Palestinians wanted (and still wants) more they lost 66 years ago in the war they started. The Palestinians want a victory over Israel and want the International community to force Israel to give it to them.
 
Old 03-18-2015, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I think the two state solution will be back on the table now that elections are over.
I agree. Once the younger Israelis bring about getting the Country's inherent racism under control, they will progress.
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