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Kinda like the right trying to "shut down" abortions and gay marriage- "events they didn't like."
Reaching back to one or two events a quarter century ago goes to show how weak your argument is. The national armada unleashed on this little pizza place is nothing like candle vigils here and there.
While it happens a little more frequently than that, it is a weak argument nonetheless. Ultimately, abortion clinic violence is done by the very fringe of the right; it is infrequent and it is not advocated by the right generally. We can't say the same thing about leftist shut it down movements (I already listed a great variety of such efforts, which are advocated and attended by leftists of all stripes). The left protests over ridiculous and unfounded causes all the time, shutting down and trying to harm business and individuals alike.
As for gay marriage events, I told the other poster to describe right wing efforts to shut down gay marriage events. And, no, codifying marriage as it has been since this country's founding until fairly recently isn't shutting down gay marriage events.
Those who cannot see the difference between infrequent right wing shut it down tactics, which are performed by the fringe and are rebuked by the right wing establishment vs. rather frequent and accepted left wing shut it down tactics are ignorant, and willfully so.
The one where you can state your religious beliefs and not have the force of the STATE deny you of your livelihood or face angry hoards threatening your business or your family with the support of the STATE.
Read the First Amendment...
Literally never has that happened.
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There is no such thing as "gay marriage" to "shut down." You have never been denied the right to marry any more than any other woman in this nation. You want the State to redefine the definition of marriage and give you the special privilege of a protected relationship.
Gays have engaged in civil unions and commitment ceremonies for decades. No one on the "right" have ever waged a war to prevent those ceremonies and you know it.
And a simple internet search shows that your statement about having only on abortion clinic in your state is false, so it seems unlikely that the rest of your statements on that issue are credible.
Also, trying to pass legislation, which is how things are done, hardly equates to death threats, shutting down businesses by calling in threats, public ridicule and bullying tactics of the LGBTQFKJQQXYZ++ mafia.
How is that you have access to the internet from Crazy Fantasy Land? Reality doesn't make it in but wifi does?
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Typical. These owners express their stance on the issue, then get death threats and boycotts from the "tolerant" lefties. Its always a one-way door with those clowns.
Right, because it's not like gay people ever receive death threats from "righties" huh?
Those who cannot see the difference between infrequent right wing shut it down tactics, which are performed by the fringe and are rebuked by the right wing establishment vs. rather frequent and accepted left wing shut it down tactics are ignorant, and willfully so.
When has the right wing establishment ever rebuked anti-gay marriage efforts? Anti-gay marriage efforts are literally part of the Republican platform. And what is the left wing trying to shut down exactly?
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How do you determine what is too excessive (what is the definition of too excessive?) and ridiculous? These people have had to close down their family business and go into hiding as a result of death threats. How do you expect them to pay their bills and feed their family? What if they are forced to move as a result of this full out assault waged against them because they were crazy enough to admit they believe in biblical marriage? Where is your outrage over the excessive and obscene attacks on them.
It doesn't appear that those people donating to the fund (myself included) have an issue with the amount of money in the fund. I believe the $$$ reflects more than supporting the family, it is an example of free speech in support of freedom of religion.
It's subjective. What's an excessive and ridiculous amount to me may not be to others. But, to answer your question more specifically, in my view excessive and ridiculous concerns and amount in excess of what the business owners could've expected to earn in profit in the next couple of decades.
There is no such thing as "gay marriage" to "shut down." You have never been denied the right to marry any more than any other woman in this nation. You want the State to redefine the definition of marriage and give you the special privilege of a protected relationship.
Gays have engaged in civil unions and commitment ceremonies for decades. No one on the "right" have ever waged a war to prevent those ceremonies and you know it.
And a simple internet search shows that your statement about having only on abortion clinic in your state is false, so it seems unlikely that the rest of your statements on that issue are credible.
Also, trying to pass legislation, which is how things are done, hardly equates to death threats, shutting down businesses by calling in threats, public ridicule and bullying tactics of the LGBTQFKJQQXYZ++ mafia.
Thank you. I don't know what is so difficult to understand about that! And this is coming from someone (me) who supports same sex marriage. And, clearly, acts that are part of the legal process are not the "shut it down" tactics I'm referring to. Those are policy disagreements.
How long before they hit a cool $1,000,000? And how long before the people who donated realize their money could have helped people in need?
People in "need" as defined by whom? That is just another control tactic, first call into question and then define a need that someone else must cater to.
There isn't anyone in the USA that can't have their "needs" taken care of by the givernment. That is a fact. There already exists a cradle to grave support system, provided by taxpayers.
How long before they hit a cool $1,000,000? And how long before the people who donated realize their money could have helped people in need?
Who is more in need than someone who got their business shuttered and life threatened. My only concern would be for the money to go to those damaged. News reports say O’Connor is the owner but she sounds and looks like a college kid. And why is the account in Lawrence B. Jones name?
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