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Old 04-14-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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It may be more dominant in black communities, mostly in large cities, but other ethnic groups aren't far behind.
Hispanics, white people, you name it. In the near future it will be the same for all.
But the real change is in women. They didn't accept this way in the past, now it's OK. Children are those who suffer most.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:23 PM
 
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It may be more dominant in black communities, mostly in large cities, but other ethnic groups aren't far behind.
Hispanics, white people, you name it. In the near future it will be the same for all.
But the real change is in women. They didn't accept this way in the past, now it's OK. Children are those who suffer most.
Stats and links please.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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It may be more dominant in black communities, mostly in large cities, but other ethnic groups aren't far behind.
Hispanics, white people, you name it. In the near future it will be the same for all.
But the real change is in women. They didn't accept this way in the past, now it's OK. Children are those who suffer most.
Exactly!!

It's only going to get worse as time goes on. Not having the father of the house will only lead to the downfall of the American family. A single parent can't raise children the way a two-parent household can. Just look at the Black American family as proof that single mother households have failed.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:26 PM
 
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Let me guess. You believe the fathers of these kids in single family homes are showing up at 6 pm each night, having dinner with the kids then doing homework and talking and then after they go to bed, these men are heading off to their own residence?

Yeah, sure they are.
What America are you living in?

The one I live in has 50% as a divorce rate.

So what does that tell you? It tells me that a hell of a lot of non black children have dinners and do homework without their fathers around.

Is the problem more acute in black families? No one is saying that it isn't. No one is saying that there's no correlation between single parenthood and absentee fatherhood.

What I'm saying is that single parenthood isn't tantamount to the children being fatherless. Nearly everyone I know that was born out of wedlock had a relationship with their fathers.

My own parents divorced when I was a small kid and they lived 2400 miles apart. I have lots of experience in this matter.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Stats and links please.
Google any article that involves issues in the Black community and it will be largely due to the break down of the Black family. Things like high crime, out of wedlock children, etc are all great examples.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:31 PM
 
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It may be more dominant in black communities, mostly in large cities, but other ethnic groups aren't far behind.
Hispanics, white people, you name it. In the near future it will be the same for all.
But the real change is in women. They didn't accept this way in the past, now it's OK. Children are those who suffer most.
My mother grew up without her mother and had a difficult relationship with her father.
She is happily married with three children and has a career.While her better off cousins lives are sad. People need realize that you cannot blame your parents everything that went wrong in your life.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:43 PM
 
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Google any article that involves issues in the Black community and it will be largely due to the break down of the Black family. Things like high crime, out of wedlock children, etc are all great examples.
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but other ethnic groups aren't far behind.
Single parent homes:
Blacks 67%
Whites 25%
Asians 16%

I'd say, in terms of single parent households, whites and Asians are "far behind" blacks.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:46 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Being from Appalachia, many dads are drug addicts are locked up. It's a poverty and cultural issue and not specifically racial.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Naw, man.
Kids left to grow up in poverty without good role models become EVERYBODY'S problem.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:55 PM
 
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So, let's say we have two groups of people.

Let's say we have the star bellied sneetches and the plain bellied sneetches.

Let's say there are 1,000,000 plain bellied sneetches total. Of those sneetches, 10,000 are on welfare, 1%.

Let's say there are 5,000 star bellied sneetches total. Of those sneetches, all 5,000 are on welfare, 100%.

You're saying that since the plain bellied sneetches on welfare is 10,000 while 5,000 star bellied sneetches are on welfare, and 10,000 is greater than 5,000, it's the plain bellied sneetches who have the welfare problem?

Interesting.
What I am saying is that neither gets to be credited for being "the problem" since both are involved. And like it or not, the media-political complex sells welfare to blacks and Hispanics like it is salvation, Christmas, all good things, sugar & spice, and the cure to every problem rolle dinto one, and they do it with far more vigor than any other racial demographics.
  • Oppose welfare = you're racist against blacks and Hispanics.
  • Oppose food stamps = you're racist against blacks and Hispanics.
  • Hammer deadbeat dads = you're racist against blacks and Hispanics and don't understand the community
  • Say almost anything negative about welfare, government assistance, single parent households, etc = you're racist against blacks and Hispanics and don't understand the community
This entire country, blacks and Hispanics most of all, has become conditioned to equate black and Hispanic mobility as tied directly to government assistance. The white person must agree or be labeled racist, the black and Hispanic must agree or be labeled sellout, and the thinking becomes ingrained that to oppose government dependency is to oppose achievement, as if the two are equal. That message gets sold hard and pushed aggressively in those two race demographics much more so than in any other, and the politically correct "never question welfare or be labeled racist" thing is sold to everyone all the time.

The old saying of drug dealers don't sell drugs...drugs sell themselves is true enough, but having drug dealers on every corner certainly makes finding a retailer easier. It's like that with welfare. Telling someone they can crank out kids, not work and have the tab paid by Leviathan sells itself, but the media political complex puts a welfare pimp on the corner of every black and Hispanic community to make sure everyone has heard of the product.

Not excusing absentee fathers, or the women who breed for them, not in any race, but the problem was nowhere near as bad until LBJ's Great Welfare State began making it profitable.
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