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Old 05-14-2015, 03:14 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Women DO pay for abortions themselves. And waiting periods are only intended to make having an abortion more of a burden. The longer a working woman has to take off from work, the harder it is for her.

Who do you think pays for abortions?
People have to pay for abortions, but you and others keep wanting public funds to support various parts of the process like free transportation.

Probably should just get rid of jury duty while we are at it, can't have working woman missing a couple days of work to perform a constitutionally mandated process.

 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:14 PM
 
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Thanks for adding an additional four weeks to the House bill we are discussing. That four weeks makes a profound difference in terms of viability. And the emotion-laded, "executing an innocent person" rhetoric doesn't make you sound like someone who wants abortion to remain legal. It isn't easily available, though. That's one thing you should realize right now. Abortion isn't easily available. There is hardship involved.

Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm not pro choice. Try to live with it.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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There are many children in the foster care system right now. Where are these thousands of couples for them?
Most are NOT available for adoption. They are in the system while their parents get a chance to get their life back together.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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Yes, because having an abortion is loads of fun. Whoo-hoo!
Making the baby is the fun part.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:15 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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Women DO pay for abortions themselves. And waiting periods are only intended to make having an abortion more of a burden. The longer a working woman has to take off from work, the harder it is for her.

Who do you think pays for abortions?
My insurance company at the time paid for the vast majority of it.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:20 PM
 
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People have to pay for abortions, but you and others keep wanting public funds to support various parts of the process like free transportation.

Probably should just get rid of jury duty while we are at it, can't have working woman missing a couple days of work to perform a constitutionally mandated process.
When did I ever say anything about public funds for free transportation? Um, never.

As for jury duty, I do think that the hardship a person, any person, incurs in order to serve should be considered. I know of one case where a woman had three young children at home. She had no one to take care of them except for herself. Her husband was a long-haul truck driver. Her family lived thousands of miles away. They didn't have money for daycare. The judge refused to excuse her, but I think the judge was wrong.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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Most are NOT available for adoption. They are in the system while their parents get a chance to get their life back together.
And yet many ARE available for adoption. Where are these thousands of eager-to-parent couples?
 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:22 PM
 
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Making the baby is the fun part.
And having to have an abortion is a consequence.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:23 PM
 
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My insurance company at the time paid for the vast majority of it.
And many women don't have insurance to cover an abortion.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:24 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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When did I ever say anything about public funds for free transportation? Um, never.

As for jury duty, I do think that the hardship a person, any person, incurs in order to serve should be considered. I know of one case where a woman had three young children at home. She had no one to take care of them except for herself. Her husband was a long-haul truck driver. Her family lived thousands of miles away. They didn't have money for daycare. The judge refused to excuse her, but I think the judge was wrong.
Then what are you talking about when you want to "make it more accessible" Do you want to promote uber in rural areas? Force doctors and hospitals to do procedures against their will and beliefs? How do we make it "more accessible" without using tax payer dollars to do that?

All states allow for a juror to postpone their jury service for a period of time, the women in your example should have rescheduled to a time her husband is home. Even the court near me provides free childcare to jurors.
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