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Old 05-24-2015, 11:30 AM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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Why again is this guy deserving of a pass?

 
Old 05-24-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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I haven't read but a few snippets here (45 pages of posts!), but I do have a few questions.

Have the Duggars expressed any concern about the girls?
Has anything been said about the fact this might not be an isolated incident?
Has anything been said about the fact that Josh has a young daughter at home? Is there an investigation to protect her?
Did his wife know about this before she married him?
 
Old 05-24-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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I wonder if Josh Duggar was molested by someone himself. Most molesters are.
 
Old 05-24-2015, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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Originally Posted by Tish437 View Post
I haven't read but a few snippets here (45 pages of posts!), but I do have a few questions.
Have the Duggars expressed any concern about the girls?
No. They even lied about the girls getting counseling. Any counselor would have been a mandatory reporter and there would have been a police report in 2002 or 2003, instead of at the hands of a tip from the Oprah Show in 2006.
Has anything been said about the fact this might not be an isolated incident?
The family has maintained that it ended in 2003 when he went to "counseling" aka to remodel a home with a family friend.
Has anything been said about the fact that Josh has a young daughter at home? Is there an investigation to protect her?
Not that we know of.
Did his wife know about this before she married him?
Anna made a statement the same day as Josh stating that she and her family knew two years before they got married. What exactly she knew or understood about it is not known. She was very sheltered and had only had contact with fundamentalist families in their sect, so she might not have known about sexual abuse.
 
Old 05-24-2015, 11:53 AM
 
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Im taking it you have never been molested or if you have, haven't worked through it in therapy. Again, a very uneducated view of sexual abuse
I'm sorry you think I'm uneducated. I believe every individual handles life's traumas in different ways. The girls have been raised to follow a certain way of thinking. Their view of therapy and working through problems probably isn't the same as yours. I know people who've been through therapy who think that the continued therapy caused bigger problems and kept them from moving forward. You just keep rehashing the same thing over and over. These girls lives have changed greatly since the twelve or so years since the molestation. Presumably, they have moved on. Your belief that they need continuing counseling doesn't necessarily fit their belief system or needs. It's their choice of how they handle the handle the situation or choose to address it at all.
 
Old 05-24-2015, 11:56 AM
 
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I'm sorry you think I'm uneducated. I believe every individual handles life's traumas in different ways. The girls have been raised to follow a certain way of thinking. Their view of therapy and working through problems probably isn't the same as yours. I know people who've been through therapy who think that the continued therapy caused bigger problems and kept them from moving forward. You just keep rehashing the same thing over and over. These girls lives have changed greatly since the twelve or so years since the molestation. Presumably, they have moved on. Your belief that they need continuing counseling doesn't necessarily fit their belief system or needs. It's their choice of how they handle the handle the situation or choose to address it at all.
But because of their quverful lifestyle, they have never once had a choice. Never. Read more about the cult and you will see. They need choices!

Plus when did they have their chance to move on. Was it when josh was the heir apparent in the family and they were "helpmeets"? Or when their bodies were forced to be covered? Or husbands chosen for them? Or when they were taught to be sweet?

Trust me, my daughter is obsessed with this show. I've seen tons of episodes. It's haunting.
 
Old 05-24-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Tish437 View Post
I haven't read but a few snippets here (45 pages of posts!), but I do have a few questions.


Has anything been said about the fact this might not be an isolated incident?
Has anything been said about the fact that Josh has a young daughter at home? Is there an investigation to protect her?
Did his wife know about this before she married him?
Have the Duggars expressed any concern about the girls?
We don't know. This is not something they would have made public.

Has anything been said about the fact that Josh has a young daughter at home? Is there an investigation to protect her?
Don't know. I doubt an investigation will bring up any continuing concerns. That is best left to the authorities.

Did his wife know about this before she married him?
She has said she did.
 
Old 05-24-2015, 12:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Tish437 View Post
I haven't read but a few snippets here (45 pages of posts!), but I do have a few questions.

Have the Duggars expressed any concern about the girls?
Has anything been said about the fact this might not be an isolated incident?
Has anything been said about the fact that Josh has a young daughter at home? Is there an investigation to protect her?
Did his wife know about this before she married him?
We know it went on for at least a year and the two interventions they made was having him talk witha sheriff/church member later sentenced for 50+ years for child porn and having him go work with a family member/church member for a summer.

I find it unlikely it stopped with either of those. We can guess there was no professional intervention as all professionals are mandatory reporters and it wasn't reported until a letter was found a few years later.
 
Old 05-24-2015, 01:23 PM
 
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I'm sorry you think I'm uneducated. I believe every individual handles life's traumas in different ways. The girls have been raised to follow a certain way of thinking. Their view of therapy and working through problems probably isn't the same as yours. I know people who've been through therapy who think that the continued therapy caused bigger problems and kept them from moving forward. You just keep rehashing the same thing over and over. These girls lives have changed greatly since the twelve or so years since the molestation. Presumably, they have moved on. Your belief that they need continuing counseling doesn't necessarily fit their belief system or needs. It's their choice of how they handle the handle the situation or choose to address it at all.
If a therapist has you rehash everything over and over, they're probably not a very good therapist. You talk about it so the therapist knows what happened and what you're thinking and feeling about it, then the rest of it is the therapist helping you to move forward.

Therapists are human and have human personalities, and no one is a good fit for every individual. If someone feels they're just rehashing stuff, they should find a new therapist, probably a psychologist.
 
Old 05-24-2015, 01:55 PM
 
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If a therapist has you rehash everything over and over, they're probably not a very good therapist. You talk about it so the therapist knows what happened and what you're thinking and feeling about it, then the rest of it is the therapist helping you to move forward.

Therapists are human and have human personalities, and no one is a good fit for every individual. If someone feels they're just rehashing stuff, they should find a new therapist, probably a psychologist.
Yup. Therapy is not a one size fits all proposition. In the case of the Duggar girls, if I was their therapist, I'd first want to know how they are doing TODAY, and then work backwards if necessary.
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