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Old 05-31-2015, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Twenty-four states have some form of "three-strikes" law so we are nearly half way there. There is a lot of controversy about how it is applied and the effects of it.

Three-strikes law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
many of those states are rolling back or eliminating 3 strikes laws and mandatory minimums. I haven't heard about any states without 3 strikes considering passing those laws,they are a vestige of the late 80's and early 90's when there was an increase in violent crime and the public demanded that 'something be done about it' It was a gross overreaction that ended up being a horribly expensive failed experiment. It let to California packing so many people into prison that the feds took over the system for about 6 years at a cost to California of several billion dollars.

I'm not making this stuff up, do your own research; long prison stays and awful prison conditions don't deter people from committing crime, the only rational reason for very lengthy incarceration is that the offender is too dangerous to be allowed his/her freedom.
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Old 05-31-2015, 09:25 AM
 
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I gave you an exact quote from the LINK YOU PROVIDED.....

In 2 months, they have almost overthrown last years total...

Why is that so hard to understand, my 13 year old does....
You simply refuse to understand that the sample is too small to be of any value that is your choice, but if you want to keep putting your foot in your mouth go for it.
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Old 05-31-2015, 09:35 AM
 
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You simply refuse to understand that the sample is too small to be of any value that is your choice, but if you want to keep putting your foot in your mouth go for it.
All of last year vs. 2 months....and in the 2 months they have almost reached last year levels by 1....

That is plenty of a sample, which is why your word problem was a failure also...
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Old 05-31-2015, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You simply refuse to understand that the sample is too small to be of any value that is your choice, but if you want to keep putting your foot in your mouth go for it.
It's not "a sample". They do this every year.
These are crime statistics here, not research modeling.

These are actual dead people being counted.
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Old 05-31-2015, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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A former mayor of Baltimore and Gov. of Maryland just threw his hat in the ring for president. Can we assume he isn't going to get your vote ?

Martin O'Malley is a POS and can rot in a hole. Any who vote or him can sit next to him.

The similarities between him and Obama are such that Maryland and the USA are both going to spend decades digging out from he policies of those two losers.
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Old 05-31-2015, 04:00 PM
 
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Martin O'Malley is a POS and can rot in a hole. Any who vote or him can sit next to him.

The similarities between him and Obama are such that Maryland and the USA are both going to spend decades digging out from he policies of those two losers.
Why don't you like O'Malley?
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Old 05-31-2015, 04:23 PM
 
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I don't blame the police at all. The blacks in low income neighborhoods in Baltimore don't want police in the neighborhood. They've made that clear with rioting, robbing, beating, violence, destruction, and antagonistic behavior towards police.

Police are just people who are doing a job. Some forget that. They want to go home to their families at night like the rest of us. Unlike the rest of us, they are willing to risk their lives to do their job.

Not trying to make an excuse for Baltimore, but the problem that blacks in low income communities have with police is the treatment, not the police per say. Many low income blacks know very well that there are good policemen out there since they interact with them daily.

And the riots aren't purely low income blacks anyway.
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Old 05-31-2015, 04:27 PM
 
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many of those states are rolling back or eliminating 3 strikes laws and mandatory minimums. I haven't heard about any states without 3 strikes considering passing those laws,they are a vestige of the late 80's and early 90's when there was an increase in violent crime and the public demanded that 'something be done about it' It was a gross overreaction that ended up being a horribly expensive failed experiment. It let to California packing so many people into prison that the feds took over the system for about 6 years at a cost to California of several billion dollars.

I'm not making this stuff up, do your own research; long prison stays and awful prison conditions don't deter people from committing crime, the only rational reason for very lengthy incarceration is that the offender is too dangerous to be allowed his/her freedom.
"and awful prison conditions" Really?

Better law libraries then some law firms.

Cable TV

Better equipped weight rooms then some gyms.

The list is long.

Many criminals have said they don't mind going back to prison because it isn't that bad.

A day off your sentence for every day you behave.

It should be a day is ADDED for EVERY day you MIS-BEHAVE.
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Old 05-31-2015, 05:01 PM
 
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He added, “After a shift call, we get together and say again, ‘We’re just going to back each other up and answer 911 calls from our dispatcher.'” And that orders from commanders go “in one ear, out the other.”


In what private company or corporation could the subordinates get away with a statement like this ? Think about it !!! How would this play out where you work ? Other jobs pay for performance. A painter who won't paint, plumber who won't plumb, electrician who won't electrify, a taxi driver who won't take you where you want to go but decides to take you where he wants you to go. Or in this case just go to hell. We will do as we wish.

I would start suspending without pay for failure to preform. There will be enough left who will who will answer the 911 calls. I would also start demoting officers Lt. and below.


HAHA, you would do that and just make the problem worse!
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Old 05-31-2015, 08:06 PM
 
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HAHA, you would do that and just make the problem worse!
Well you are in the right place to offer your solutions. I don't see any reason not to listen to any idea that would improve the situation. Are you an advocate for the do nothing approach ? Then we have had the throw in the towel folks and put up a perimeter. I'm sure no one will just comment with criticism about how your idea won't work, and if they do so what ? No guts no glory.
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