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People are acting like Baltimore was Mayberry when the cops were doing there job... lol.
Baltimore has always been a rough city.
This.
I read the article after posting above and there were multiple references to the fact that "arrests" were dropping prior to Freddie Gray's arrest and death.
Also that crime, especially murders/homicides were increasing prior to Freddie Gray's arrest/death.
So I don't see how people are "getting what they wished for."
The protests were about police brutality against non-violent offenders. Freddie Gray, even with his charge and arrest record, did not have a history of being a violent criminal. See quote from someone interviewed in the article:
Quote:
Veronica Edmonds said she wishes the police would return, and focus on violent crime rather than minor drug offenses.
"If they focused more on criminals and left the petty stuff alone, the community would have more respect for police officers," she said.
Those that think Obama was born in Kenya are blaming him for racial division? Those that rally around Jim Crow voter ID laws are blaming Obama for racial division?
Never before have we had a President that immediately publically sided with their own race. Perhaps we have had Presidents that unofficially, behind closed doors, sided with the White race? But, publically siding with one race is giving a green light to the looters and rioters. This is not what MLK envisioned. Many times we are bordering on all out race wars - it could happen in the near future with the right set of circumstances.
What we need are leaders that bring us together and not divide us - that is where our President is going wrong. We have opened our doors to races besides White and Black and we are both quickly being replaced. If we do not find ways to work together; all will be lost.
Those that think Obama was born in Kenya are blaming him for racial division? Those that rally around Jim Crow voter ID laws are blaming Obama for racial division?
Voter ID laws are "Jim Crow"? Please. I NEED to show ID for almost anything I do INCLUDING voting and I'm a "white" dude.
Never before have we had a President that immediately publically sided with their own race. Perhaps we have had Presidents that unofficially, behind closed doors, sided with the White race? But, publically siding with one race is giving a green light to the looters and rioters. This is not what MLK envisioned. Many times we are bordering on all out race wars - it could happen in the near future with the right set of circumstances.
What we need are leaders that bring us together and not divide us - that is where our President is going wrong. We have opened our doors to races besides White and Black and we are both quickly being replaced. If we do not find ways to work together; all will be lost.
LOL, this is a funny post especially with the bold.
You are freaking hilarious.
Maybe they did behind closed doors.....lol.
Why are so many conservatives fascinated with the idea of a "race war."???
It will not happen "in the near future" lol. If it was going to happen it would have happened a long time ago.
And FYI, practically all the white presidents in the modern era have "sided with their own race" publically via discriminatory laws and all out efforts to criminalize and stigmatize non-white persons in this country.
Saw a tee shirt in a shop on the Avenue yesterday, "Baltimore, There'r More Than Just Murder Here". too funny!
But thankfully, there is. I've lived in Baltimore over 50 years and come from a family with it's own history of racism. What's happeining here has got nothing to do with Obama, democrats or the Mayor. Like all cities, blacks have been treated like sub humans in this town since day one. What happens when people are constantly beaten down and demoralized? Some become violent, some turn to drugs to blot out their miserable existence. Baltimore in well into it's fourth generation now since the crack epidemic of the early 80s destroyed the black communities that used to have 2 parent families and ties to the communities churches. Kids growing up in these hoods mother's, grandmother's and great grandparents have been addicts. Many know nothing from birth except drug abuse. And we should expect kids in that environmnent to relate to mainstream societal values? Even kids who want to avoid gang culture cannot stay away from it. It's join or be a target. But as a middle class white man, I have experienced the human side of the drug gang members. I have had gangs help me rescue a stray dog from a drug corner - when they understood I was trying to save the dog who was dying, they circled it, caught it and put it in my truck for me. On another occasion they took me and another woman into a crack house to rescue a baby from a mother who could not and would not care for the child. These people are human beings. I know the endless violence makes it hard to see them as real people, but they are. They are simply living the only life they have ever known. The cops have a tough job and I don't know how anybody can do that job without becoming desensitized to humo an suffering. They see the worst of human behaviore usually and have to try to control that behavior and not get killed. How do you do that without excessive force? Thiis is not a race issue between cops and citizen, most of the cops are black! The police cannot conduct a police state and expect people to accept this. Black men should not fear for their safety when they see a cop, regardless of their past offenses, if any. But until we as a society make a real effort to target these communities with alternatives to the drug trade, nothing will change. The police cannot solve the crime problem. People have to have opportunities for a better alternative; job training, mentoring, recreational outlets for the kids, and a concerted effort by the community to offer folks in these neighborhoods a chance at something better are the only way crime and poverty will be resolved. Instead of everybody blaming the victims and or the police, we need to step up, and find out how we can help. The fact that the majority of us just live our lives and blame people for their behavior, rather than taking steps to be part of the solution says more about us than about the police or the gang members. We are all the same, whether we choose to recognize it or not.
If a community is on it's 4th generation since the 1980s, I'm pretty sure you have the biggest part of the problem right there.
My own small city had three homicides this week. What gets me is the people who committed the crimes. One ran way from the crime scene and was picked up a few days later walking along a no pedestrian roadway. He was armed but surrendered without incident and it was only because he was stopped for illegal walking that he was arrested.
Then another person shot and killed two people and immediately threw the gun away at the scene in the trash. He surrendered to police two days later after they Id'd him.
So I'm thinking. They commit murder but seem to have put absolutely no thought into the consequences of their actions. Do they even think that they'll be sentenced to extremely long prison sentences or will never be free again? Is it that they just cannot control their impulses and a firearm was the last thing they should have had. A neighboring city one county over, same size, just had an 18 year shoot and kill someone. What are the motives? Its not gang violence this time, it just seems to be lack of mental development or complete lack of ethics. The riots in Baltimore had the same MO. Just a lack of higher thought on the part of the participants. Same with the DC kidnapper/ murderer. No thought, just emotion, violence and a pursuit of gratification.
Those that think Obama was born in Kenya are blaming him for racial division? Those that rally around Jim Crow voter ID laws are blaming Obama for racial division?
I don't think Obama was born in Kenya but we do know that he was raised by white grandparents in the upper middle class. His ancestors didn't have the same experiences as your parents and ancestors, yet he acts as if he did. The only commonality (for many) is a dead beat dad. Obama is a farce and you're too color blind to see.
My own small city had three homicides this week. What gets me is the people who committed the crimes. One ran way from the crime scene and was picked up a few days later walking along a no pedestrian roadway. He was armed but surrendered without incident and it was only because he was stopped for illegal walking that he was arrested.
Then another person shot and killed two people and immediately threw the gun away at the scene in the trash. He surrendered to police two days later after they Id'd him.
So I'm thinking. They commit murder but seem to have put absolutely no thought into the consequences of their actions. Do they even think that they'll be sentenced to extremely long prison sentences or will never be free again? Is it that they just cannot control their impulses and a firearm was the last thing they should have had. A neighboring city one county over, same size, just had an 18 year shoot and kill someone. What are the motives? Its not gang violence this time, it just seems to be lack of mental development or complete lack of ethics. The riots in Baltimore had the same MO. Just a lack of higher thought on the part of the participants. Same with the DC kidnapper/ murderer. No thought, just emotion, violence and a pursuit of gratification.
The science behind it will tell you that the brain isn't fully developed until 25 - and that the part that remains undeveloped has to do with impulse control. And that males lag behind.
BUT ... I am not blaming human development on the reason that the most violent crimes are committed by males 18-21.
I do think it's a very small piece of a bigger puzzle - with the biggest piece being a lack of family structure.
My own small city had three homicides this week. What gets me is the people who committed the crimes. One ran way from the crime scene and was picked up a few days later walking along a no pedestrian roadway. He was armed but surrendered without incident and it was only because he was stopped for illegal walking that he was arrested.
Then another person shot and killed two people and immediately threw the gun away at the scene in the trash. He surrendered to police two days later after they Id'd him.
So I'm thinking. They commit murder but seem to have put absolutely no thought into the consequences of their actions. Do they even think that they'll be sentenced to extremely long prison sentences or will never be free again? Is it that they just cannot control their impulses and a firearm was the last thing they should have had. A neighboring city one county over, same size, just had an 18 year shoot and kill someone. What are the motives? Its not gang violence this time, it just seems to be lack of mental development or complete lack of ethics. The riots in Baltimore had the same MO. Just a lack of higher thought on the part of the participants. Same with the DC kidnapper/ murderer. No thought, just emotion, violence and a pursuit of gratification.
Most young people who commit crimes don't think they will get caught, in fact they don't think much at all, and they almost never consider the impact of their crime on their victim. That applies to about most offenders whether white or black. Some are just stupid and young, others are sociopaths. That is why the threat of lengthy punishment doesn't generally act as a deterrent, they never stop and say "wow I could get 20 years for this, it's not worth it"
What seems to deter young people from crime is how much they stand to lose immediately. . A kid with a job, a car, a nice place to live is much more likely to avoid putting himself in a position where he stands to lose those things he has acquired. It seems that the poorest, most miserable people not only lack insight but simply don't care much about themselves or anyone else.
The science behind it will tell you that the brain isn't fully developed until 25 - and that the part that remains undeveloped has to do with impulse control. And that males lag behind.
BUT ... I am not blaming human development on the reason that the most violent crimes are committed by males 18-21.
I do think it's a very small piece of a bigger puzzle - with the biggest piece being a lack of family structure.
The difference is "culture" here. FEW Asians, Black people from Africa and so on in the US act like full on hood rats so that throws out "age" as the big reason to be playing the fool.
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