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Old 06-14-2015, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Gays do not want to settle for a civil union. They don't want to accept the word of God that Homosexuality is wrong,but they want to change what GOD says is the definition of marriage. This is dangerous territory for America if the majority supports gay marriage.
Why do you say that gays "won't settle" for civil unions? If you are married, you have a civil union. Because *ALL* legal marriages in the US are civil unions. We know this because marriage licenses are issued by the state. The religious sanctification is strictly optional.

What god says depends very much on who is asserting what god says. I've noticed there is a pretty big disagreement about what god says on any topic. So I pretty much am not impressed.

 
Old 06-14-2015, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Actually sopport for SSM is falling

Gay-Marriage Support Falling | National Review Online

But the poll was also remarkable for showing a rather dramatic drop in support for gay marriage in one year, after years of uninterrupted rises. Do you favor “allowing gays and lesbians to marry legally” is an imperfect question, but it does allow tracking across time. Overall support for gay marriage dropped from 54 percent to 49 percent.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ggie-gallagher
 
Old 06-14-2015, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Actually sopport for SSM is falling

Gay-Marriage Support Falling | National Review Online
The survey you are citing is nearly a year old. The one in the OP is a week old.

Excise me for thinking you are grasping at straws.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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New Politico Poll Shows National Support for Same-Sex Marriage Continues to Decline | CCV Action

Additionally, a majority of Americans (52%) oppose redefining marriage, and nearly 2/3 of voters polled say where a candidate stands on marriage is important in selecting their candidates.

As we have seen in Ohio, with the polling figures over the last month, support for same-sex marriage is declining as citizens become increasingly alarmed and disturbed by the bullying tactics carried out by many in the same-sex marriage movement.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Vanderbilt poll finds support for same-sex marriage in decline

https://www.outandaboutnashville.com...x#.VX3opnD3arU

A new poll conducted by Vanderbilt University (link is external) has found that statewide support for marriage equality has fallen. As you can see in the following graphic, support for marriage equality had remained steady at 32% since May 2013 but slipped to 27% in the new poll. Tennesseans who'd prefer there be no legal recognition of same-sex relationships leaped 10 points to 48% after experiencing a loss in support in the previous poll.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 02:51 PM
 
Location: "Chicago"
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...citizens become increasingly alarmed and disturbed by the bullying tactics carried out by many in the same-sex marriage movement.
I'm more alarmed and disturbed by the bullying tactics carried out by some of the religious types in this thread. That's the real agenda here, and its a dangerous one. Their message seems to be: "Fall in lockstep with us or go to hell."
 
Old 06-14-2015, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm more alarmed and disturbed by the bullying tactics carried out by some of the religious types in this thread. That's the real agenda here, and its a dangerous one. Their message seems to be: "Fall in lockstep with us or go to hell."
You are free to ignore Biblical views, but you cannot ignore people using the strong arm of the new laws to bully people based on their religious views. Lot of people are waking up to the new reality, and they reject it.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Why do you say that gays "won't settle" for civil unions? If you are married, you have a civil union. Because *ALL* legal marriages in the US are civil unions. We know this because marriage licenses are issued by the state. The religious sanctification is strictly optional.

What god says depends very much on who is asserting what god says. I've noticed there is a pretty big disagreement about what god says on any topic. So I pretty much am not impressed.
They don't because it don't really travel to other states, and don't provide the same rights as a marriage does under the law. That is the problem. It is separate but equal 2015.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 04:05 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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You are free to ignore Biblical views, but you cannot ignore people using the strong arm of the new laws to bully people based on their religious views. Lot of people are waking up to the new reality, and they reject it.
So i take it you are against Michigan's new law ?

Further more, i will probably never understand your argument against gay marriage or your continued attempt to claim support for it is falling.

You seem to have a problem with the simply fact that they are fighting for their belief, not that they have that belief and that is a strange stance. Its the same stance many Confederate apologist have by saying " The South would have eventually come around".
 
Old 06-14-2015, 04:12 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Actually sopport for SSM is falling

Gay-Marriage Support Falling | National Review Online

But the poll was also remarkable for showing a rather dramatic drop in support for gay marriage in one year, after years of uninterrupted rises. Do you favor “allowing gays and lesbians to marry legally” is an imperfect question, but it does allow tracking across time. Overall support for gay marriage dropped from 54 percent to 49 percent.

Read more at: Gay-Marriage Support Falling | National Review Online
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
More....

New Politico Poll Shows National Support for Same-Sex Marriage Continues to Decline | CCV Action

Additionally, a majority of Americans (52%) oppose redefining marriage, and nearly 2/3 of voters polled say where a candidate stands on marriage is important in selecting their candidates.

As we have seen in Ohio, with the polling figures over the last month, support for same-sex marriage is declining as citizens become increasingly alarmed and disturbed by the bullying tactics carried out by many in the same-sex marriage movement.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Vanderbilt poll finds support for same-sex marriage in decline

https://www.outandaboutnashville.com...x#.VX3opnD3arU

A new poll conducted by Vanderbilt University (link is external) has found that statewide support for marriage equality has fallen. As you can see in the following graphic, support for marriage equality had remained steady at 32% since May 2013 but slipped to 27% in the new poll. Tennesseans who'd prefer there be no legal recognition of same-sex relationships leaped 10 points to 48% after experiencing a loss in support in the previous poll.
You are picking the polls that agree with you and skipping over the ones that disagree including the OP, one poll does not discredit the other, especially when some of these polls are state polls while others are National, and when someone of them specifically poll registered voters and others dont, and when one poll specifically says they didnt poll people who had previously been apart of the poll.

You can only claim support has declined when a person who was previously for it, has changed their mind and is now against it.

By your own logic, this poll(Vandy) didnt follow its own definition of decline.
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