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Originally Posted by finalmove
San Francisco based Uber announced new policy banning firearms both by driver and passengers. How they expect to enforce this is another issue.
More symbolism from the Left Coast.
I use Uber often, and this policy matters not to me.
Reminds me of a recent policy by a coffee shop chain!
Isn't this pretty much a non-issue? I mean don't most traditional cab companies like Yellow Cab ban firearms? Maybe I'm missing something . . . and I know drivers have dangerous jobs. I've taken plenty of cabs in my life.
Maybe you dont, and you wouldn't be alone but 41 million did last year which is more then visit Texas in 10 years. Not really the point though is it..
Actually it is the point. In my original post, I never mentioned going to Nevada or anywhere else. What was the point in pointing out something that is so obvious? Did you think I was some kind of idiot that needed it pointed out to me that I couldn't carry my firearm into a Las Vegas casino? Do you somehow feel like you educated me? Good grief.
Isn't this pretty much a non-issue? I mean don't most traditional cab companies like Yellow Cab ban firearms? Maybe I'm missing something . . . and I know drivers have dangerous jobs. I've taken plenty of cabs in my life.
It is except to the gun nuts who think it is their right to go anywhere they dam well please with a gun whether it is movie theaters, restaurants, government buildings, taxis and sports venues without thinking of the consequences.
It is except to the gun nuts who think it is their right to go anywhere they dam well please with a gun whether it is movie theaters, restaurants, government buildings, taxis and sports venues without thinking of the consequences.
Actually it's all quite simple. If it's posted with the proper signage, you don't go in carrying. If it's not posted, it is perfectly acceptable. I go into restaurants, and theaters all the time with my firearm. If you were seated next to me, you would never know. I have also taken cabs with my firearm. It is not posted on any cab I have ever seen. Never had an issue. In fact, I carried rifles in a cab and the cabbie couldn't have cared less.
True but there have to be substitutes in the marketplace
to truly allow that choice.
So I assume you'd be just as outraged if every business banned guns? If not, why not? There has to be choice, right?
No, there doesn't. That's why it's called a "free" market, not a "fixed" market. In a free market system, the natural ebb and flow of demand cuts off the dead weight. For instance, if everyone all of a sudden quit using Uber because they banned guns, do you think they'd keep that policy for very long? Of course not, because obviously there wouldn't be a market for a car service that didn't allow you to carry a gun. That's not going to happen, but it serves as a good example of how the free market rewards products and services that people want and are in demand, and does away with those that are less desirable and not as attractive to consumers.
Uber itself stands as an example of how the Free Market works. Why do you think Cab companies all over the country hate Uber so much? It's because they're losing business to Uber, because Uber can offer a better and more efficient service at a better price than most Cab companies because they aren't burdened with all the same regulation that Cab companies are. Therefore, the free market demands that the better service will survive and thrive, while the less attractive service will die off.
It's the same with guns, and smoking for that matter. If the majority of people want to go to businesses that allow you to be armed, or allow you to smoke, then obviously the rules of the free market will dictate that most if not all businesses will allow their customers to carry a gun and smoke a cigarette. If the opposite is true, than the trend will go the other way. There doesn't have to be a choice for those people who want something other than what's in demand, that's nonsense. Maybe I want to buy a computer that runs on the Windows 95 operating system, but can't find one. You know why? because compared to todays technology, the 95 system is inefficient and obsolete. Therefore, I have to adapt or just not have a computer. THAT is the choice. I don't have to be accommodated just because I don't like the new technology. Same free market model for everything else as well.
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There are, bars aren't common for non smokers for whatever reason without
government forcing the issue.
It's because the vast majority of people who make up a bars clientele want to be able to smoke. That's where they get the most business. Not as much money in catering to non-smokers, so naturally, they go with the business model that brings the most profit. When the government intervenes, the market becomes less free, and more fixed.
That's for another thread though.
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I guess non smokers either drink at home or don't drink at all...
Pretty much, yeah. Just like if every business banned guns, people who want to carry one are just out of luck. Wouldn't you agree?
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As I mentioned with Uber, part of this is likely related to the fall out of the
Uber rape cases in the US and internationally.
I don't know about any of those, but if people are being raped or robbed while using Uber, it sure doesn't sound to me like rendering their customers defenseless is the best course of action. Obviously the rapists aren't going to care about Uber's rule not to carry guns, they're going to do it anyway. They didn't care about the law that said "you can't rape someone". so why does Uber brass think this policy will dissuade them? What backwards logic. I would choose never to use their service.
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Originally Posted by mkpunk
It is except to the gun nuts who think it is their right to go anywhere they dam well please with a gun whether it is movie theaters, restaurants, government buildings, taxis and sports venues without thinking of the consequences.
I surmised that, I just wondered what would make Uber's employees that much different from old-school-style taxi ones. I know there have been safety concerns about their using mobile phone apps rather than the more traditional dispatcher-communication devices, but I'm hoping that someone can explain how Uber differs substantially from pay-as-you-go cab services.
I would also hope that such respondents would have a fair bit of experience actually being cab drivers and/or using their services, traditional or otherwise. E.G., do most posting on here even know how to hail or have ever hailed a cab in a variety of environments, or used the Uber app?
It is except to the gun nuts who think it is their right to go anywhere they dam well please with a gun whether it is movie theaters, restaurants, government buildings, taxis and sports venues without thinking of the consequences.
If it's not posted, what would these consequences be?
It is except to the gun nuts who think it is their right to go anywhere they dam well please with a gun whether it is movie theaters, restaurants, government buildings, taxis and sports venues without thinking of the consequences.
Regardless of postings, if I enter carrying concealed, buy a loaf of bread or see a movie or have a meal or arrive at my destination, etc, and my weapon is never displayed or brandished, and no one the wiser to or alarmed by its' presence, then what harm is done? What are these consequences of which you speak?
If by some chance it is discovered, the most the proprietor can do initially is to ask that I leave. If I refuse to do so, only then can it escalate.
Concealed means concealed.
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