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Old 08-01-2015, 11:19 AM
 
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From the Ds we have Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare and now advocates of single payer.

Just a few questions: what is the Republican plan, and what have Republicans ever done for healthcare of American citizens?
Their plan is to allow poor people to die.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Their plan is to allow poor people to die.
The Obamacare sux plan has my son in law in a life and death situation. Befoe Obamacare sux became law my daughter and son in law had great health plans, now the Obamacare sux plan is life threatening to them.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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Only idiot Americans would back a socialist like Sanders while other socialist countries are crashing economically....Greece comes to mind, then Italy, then Spain...
Their economic problems are not because of their universal health insurance. Also northern Europe is doing fine, even though they are more left wing than southern Europe.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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Their plan is to allow poor people to die.
35 million don't have insurance. (about the same as pre-Obamacare) Obamacare is not the answer to the poor not having insurance. Few can afford to use it even if they have it.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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you seem to be under the mistaken impression that our health care system operates in a free market.
FWIW the SSA has announced the Disabilty Insurance Trust Fund is scheduled to go broke in 2016 and the Federal Highway Trust Fund is insolvent as we speak. You actually want the fedguv involved with healthcare more than it already is?
We are not Sweden.
The highway trust fund is insolvent because the gasoline tax is never raised. The federal government works when it is properly funded. And Medicare is more efficient than any private health insurance company in the USA.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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During a rally on Capitol Hill celebrating Medicare's 50th anniversary, presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders highlighted his support for a single-payer health-care system, a position that separates him from his rivals for the Democratic nomination.

Sanders advocates for single-payer health-care system on Medicare anniversary - The Washington Post

I like his response to pundits who say it has no chance of ever passing: “All of the pundits always tell us what we cannot accomplish until the day after we accomplish it.”

Sanders continues to hit the issues that affect and concern middle class Americans the most.
Ironic that the very same posters who advocate for this, object to things like voucher programs for medicare, thereby converting medicare into an ACA program, a step towards single payer..

You wont ever see the irony in this though, will you?
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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I support universal health care but I still have to note....your numbers don't begin to tell the whole story. Sweden doesn't have large numbers of youths killing each other bringing the averages down.
Homicides has little to do with the efficiency of Sweden's or any Europeans countries efficient health systems.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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The highway trust fund is insolvent because the gasoline tax is never raised. The federal government works when it is properly funded. And Medicare is more efficient than any private health insurance company in the USA.
This gets old. The V.A. is not doing so poorly because it's underfunded. It's doing poorly because it's poorly run and no one is ever held accountable for that.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:31 AM
 
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35 million don't have insurance. (about the same as pre-Obamacare) Obamacare is not the answer to the poor not having insurance. Few can afford to use it even if they have it.
I don't endorse Obamacare, but it is a plan. The republicans have no plan. Even after 7-8 years of trying to overturn a plan that has at least given people some access.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:31 AM
 
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Homicides has little to do with the efficiency of Sweden's or any Europeans countries efficient health systems.
That wasn't the point.
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