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Old 07-31-2015, 04:41 PM
 
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But conservatives demand that single payer never be adapted, due to the long waits, up to months, for surgeries in countries, like Spain and France, which have it.
Sort of irrelevant isn't it? "Conservatives" said gays can't marry also.

If no one will fight for it what does it matter?
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Old 07-31-2015, 05:14 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Bernie is mathematically challenged. He could take 100% of all earnings from all the rich people in the country and it still wouldn't cover it.
45,000 Americans die each year from not having health insurance.
New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage | Harvard Gazette


Whats the best and cheapest way to give all Americans good health insurance?

And how do conservatives feel about preventative medicine to stop people from getting sick in the first place (and then totally avoiding their future medical bills)?
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Old 07-31-2015, 05:16 PM
 
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45,000 Americans die each year from not having health insurance.
New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage | Harvard Gazette


Whats the best and cheapest way to give all Americans good health insurance?

And how do conservatives feel about preventative medicine to stop people from getting sick in the first place (and then totally avoiding their future medical bills)?
Again.....what difference does it make what they think when 35 million still do not have insurance?
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Old 07-31-2015, 05:17 PM
 
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During a rally on Capitol Hill celebrating Medicare's 50th anniversary, presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders highlighted his support for a single-payer health-care system, a position that separates him from his rivals for the Democratic nomination.



Sanders advocates for single-payer health-care system on Medicare anniversary - The Washington Post

I like his response to pundits who say it has no chance of ever passing: “All of the pundits always tell us what we cannot accomplish until the day after we accomplish it.”

Sanders continues to hit the issues that affect and concern middle class Americans the most.
He's right obviously. The system we have is beyond terrible. It would be cheaper to merge the entire thing into Medicare, as long as all these capitalist pig drug companies are kicked out of the business. Give grants to universities and let them do the research. Then maybe cancer meds wouldn't cost $1500 per pill.
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Old 07-31-2015, 05:17 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Again.....what difference does it make what they think when 35 million still do not have insurance?
Whats the best and cheapest way to give all Americans good health insurance?
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Old 07-31-2015, 05:24 PM
 
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Whats the best and cheapest way to give all Americans good health insurance?
I support UHC...what I do not support is parties that do not. Neither party does.

I should also note....maybe if Bernie had voted no on Obamacare he would have an easier time getting something like this done now.

At least Kucenich was honest about his vote on Obamacare.
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Old 07-31-2015, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Midwest/South
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Only idiot Americans would back a socialist like Sanders while other socialist countries are crashing economically....Greece comes to mind, then Italy, then Spain...
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Old 07-31-2015, 05:40 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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I support UHC...what I do not support is parties that do not. Neither party does.

I should also note....maybe if Bernie had voted no on Obamacare he would have an easier time getting something like this done now.

At least Kucenich was honest about his vote on Obamacare.
From UHC.com,

"As part of the Affordable Care Act, the government has set up Health Insurance Marketplaces (also called Exchanges) where health insurance companies can sell their plans. Some of these Marketplaces are run by a state, some by the federal government, and some by both working together.

The marketplaces are another way for people to buy health insurance. You can shop online, by mail, by phone or in person with trained helpers called Navigators – or with insurance brokers or agents."

Health Insurance Marketplace | UnitedHealthcare
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Old 07-31-2015, 05:42 PM
 
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From UHC.com,

"As part of the Affordable Care Act, the government has set up Health Insurance Marketplaces (also called Exchanges) where health insurance companies can sell their plans. Some of these Marketplaces are run by a state, some by the federal government, and some by both working together.

The marketplaces are another way for people to buy health insurance. You can shop online, by mail, by phone or in person with trained helpers called Navigators – or with insurance brokers or agents."

Health Insurance Marketplace | UnitedHealthcare
This addresses 35 million with no insurance how? A blurb from a government subsidizes for profit company is proving what?

That I'm wrong? Please explain.
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Old 07-31-2015, 06:00 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Only idiot Americans would back a socialist like Sanders while other socialist countries are crashing economically....Greece comes to mind, then Italy, then Spain...
Switzerland is a socialist country (actually a social-capitalist country run by conservatives.)

Switzerland is the #1 performing country in the world. Their average income is double that of Americans, everyone has healthcare, there are no welfare freeloaders (yet they have a low poverty level), they have a citizen militia, government funded public gun ranges, ex.ex.

They are also the wealthiest country in the world in per capita terms, the #1 ranked competitive economy in the world, and they have lower national debt than America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switze...and_labour_law

But America's conservatives would never allow America to be like Switzerland, because the Swiss tax the rich at higher rates, and they make the rich pay more for certain things. If a very rich person in Switzerland gets a speeding ticket the fine can be up to $1 million USD.
$1 million speeding fine in Switzerland for Swedish SLS owner

But America's republicans would never allow the rich to pay more for anything. But is a $500 dollar speeding ticket enough financial incentive to make a man like Bill Gates stop speeding?
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