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I am a bit skeptical of this story until further facts come out. An 11 year old shoots a home invader in the head? That is pretty far fetched. Even an adult would be rattled if being robbed. A head shot isn't easy in the best circumstances on a range.
I'll hit a headshot any day of the week. Easy peasy.
There are adults that would have difficulty making a life and death decision with a gun, placing that responsibility on any child is lacking in common sense.
So, you would rather of had them raped and killed...got it! F'n amazing how people are cheering for the person who was killed and their counter part....
There are adults that would have difficulty making a life and death decision with a gun, placing that responsibility on any child is lacking in common sense.
That's according to you.... to your judgment.
With today's youth, I would tend to agree that you're probably right in most cases, but every family and every kid is different.
Can we assume you mean the perps' parents should be locked up on child endangerment charges?
Are all gun owners, gun nuts?
Most of the kids grew up with guns. The old boy scout manual had 11 pages of gun ads. turn 18 and go to any hardware of sporting good dept such as S Kliens and buy any gun you want. Somehow murder and gun violence was quite rare when everyone had access to firearms. So when did the culture become violent and numb to murder? Guns didn't change, access to guns got stricter and some how gun violence has increased...and might I add, the perponderance of the violence is downstream of gangs and drugs all supported by your buds who buy illegal drugs. The gun violence is not widespread. Put a push pin in a map and find the pins are clustered. How about that? The place and categorical victim can be predicted while the rest of the state has no pins. Ah a clue!
So, you would rather of had them raped and killed...got it! F'n amazing how people are cheering for the person who was killed and their counter part....
Right away to raped and killed. Who's cheering, it's a tragedy.
You wouldn't allow an 11 year old to vote, drive a car or drink alcohol but you're alright with their judgment to kill someone, truly amazing and therefore the title.
Right away to raped and killed. Who's cheering, it's a tragedy.
The OP is cheering, do you have the ability to read and comprehend the the thread title and then read and comprehend the article the OP provided?
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
You wouldn't allow an 11 year old to vote, drive a car or drink alcohol but you're alright with their judgment to kill someone, truly amazing and therefore the title.
You running off to all these extremes of voting, driving, and drinking shows you have no nothing more to offer in this conversation. This 11 year old and their parent's thought it was appropriate, because you don't means you would rather have the children raped and murdered.
So, please tell us what would have happened without the gun in the house and the hands of that 11 year old?
Go ahead....waiting....give the FULL outcome....in YOUR opinion....
The OP is cheering, do you have the ability to read and comprehend the the thread title and then read and comprehend the article the OP provided?
You running off to all these extremes of voting, driving, and drinking shows you have no nothing more to offer in this conversation. This 11 year old and their parent's thought it was appropriate, because you don't means you would rather have the children raped and murdered.
So, please tell us what would have happened without the gun in the house and the hands of that 11 year old?
Go ahead....waiting....give the FULL outcome....in YOUR opinion....
Running off, you're the one jumping to rape and murder outcome, what if it was simply robbery, how do you even know the intentions.
Just take a step back and answer the question, why don't we allow 11 year olds responsibility in other areas but you will readily accept life and death decisions, can gun ownership ever be irresponsible.
I don't know what happened in this particular instance, still waiting for the details but there is sure some evidence that this may be a very bad decision.
The outcome of this does not change the fact that putting a gun in the hands of an 11year old in these situations invites disaster. So at what age would this not be acceptable, 10, 8, 7 pre-teens make some rally bad decisions.
We've already been through this argument and established from gun nuts that there is no age too young for a person to wield a loaded firearm; in fact, the sooner the better. Kids, babies, toddlers still in diapers...doesn't matter, they should all be strapped with live heat. If there was a way to implant a miniaturized beretta 9mm with extended clip into the womb and wrap that fetuses little hand-like appendages around it, they would gladly do it.
This is the gospel according to the gun nut...glory you, oh fully-automatic assault rifle.
Right away to raped and killed. Who's cheering, it's a tragedy.
You wouldn't allow an 11 year old to vote, drive a car or drink alcohol but you're alright with their judgment to kill someone, truly amazing and therefore the title.
We can agree on something I think....... 11 yo's should not be put in these situations to begin with. That said, we don't know the details on this. We don't know how long they were alone, we don't know why they were left alone. Situations to the extent that an 11 yo should be put in this kind of situation should be rare and infrequent. Incidents like these should be the exception, not the rule. Fair enough?
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
Running off, you're the one jumping to rape and murder
outcome, what if it was simply robbery, how do you even know the intentions.
The intentions of the CRIMINAL mean nothing. If someone breaks in to a house, the home owner or occupant shouldn't have to find out the intentions of the intruder before being able to use force. Whatever their intentions, it can't be good.
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Just take a step back and answer the question, why don't we allow 11 year olds
responsibility in other areas but you will readily accept life and death
decisions, can gun ownership ever be
irresponsible.
The answer is YES, absolutely. But the point is, there are no blanket, one-size-fits-all criteria for what irresponsible gun ownership looks like, because every situation is different.
We can agree on something I think....... 11 yo's should not be put in these situations to begin with. That said, we don't know the details on this. We don't know how long they were alone, we don't know why they were left alone. Situations to the extent that an 11 yo should be put in this kind of situation should be rare and infrequent. Incidents like these should be the exception, not the rule. Fair enough?
The intentions of the CRIMINAL mean nothing. If someone breaks in to a house, the home owner or occupant shouldn't have to find out the intentions of the intruder before being able to use force. Whatever their intentions, it can't be good.
The answer is YES, absolutely. But the point is, there are no blanket, one-size-fits-all criteria for what irresponsible gun ownership looks like, because every situation is different.
Very fair points!
Relative to intentions we really do not know but there were some that went to the extreme in an attempt to justify this particular case. There are some states where you don't have to justify taking someones life, other states require that is life threatening, either way you need to be sure of what you are doing. There have been more than a few wrongful shootings of family members and others in these types of incidents.
Vetry strange it's been several days and no update but that may have something to do with the fact that there are minors involved.
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