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I thought SAFETY is the primary concern here??? Am I wrong? Isn't that's what's been said by gun nuts repeatedly??
Who said you must fight? fighting is not safe. Just run. You don't have to be the best fighter, just be able to run and dial 911 at the same time; or run to the nearest safe location if you don't have a cell handy.
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I'll always try and take the high road if possible. Having said that, if someone has barged into my home, they've pretty much limited my options, as well as theirs. In other words, if someone wants burglarize my home, it would be in their best interest to do so when I or my family members aren't there. To do so when I am there isn't actually being safe on their part now, is it?
Who said you must fight? fighting is not safe. Just run. You don't have to be the best fighter, just be able to run and dial 911 at the same time; or run to the nearest safe location if you don't have a cell handy.
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Who said that you must fight? No one...
Of course the better option is to get away to a safe location. Don't be a hero, especially as a bystander to another crime. But as many in this thread have stated, there are so many possibilities and scenarios that you can't do a one-size-fits-all how to handle yourself as a victim. To think as such is just ignorant.
Yes, in many scenarios it is far safer to run away or just hand over the cash register or your wallet and be done. You just simply may not be capable of drawing your weapon even if you do have it, may be bystanders that could be hit by the bullet, may be a clear exit path to run, you may not be a direct target to the criminal, etc.
There are also many scenarios where that gun may save your life. One example was posted with the lady getting robbed.
I'll always try and take the high road if possible. Having said that, if someone has barged into my home, they've pretty much limited my options, as well as theirs. In other words, if someone wants burglarize my home, it would be in their best interest to do so when I or my family members aren't there. To do so when I am there isn't actually being safe on their part now, is it?
Fine. If you're the type of person to prefers to stand your ground, it's a free country.
But that is a different argument than "Guns make it safer for me than other options."
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If the person can easily reach for a gun, then that person can also easily opens the door and get the hell out of there, doesn't it?
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OTOH... one less criminal that we as a society would have to deal with. The POS could have easily chosen to be an upstanding and productive citizen, and not try to rob someone! Actions have consequences! Trying to rob people is a high risk "occupation" in which one tends to end up in prison, or dead.
But that is a different argument than "Guns make it safer for me than other options."
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I'd argue that the elderly 85-year-old was much safer once he shot the 34-year-old thug who kicked down his door and was entering his house with his thug accomplice. The gun had the immediate effect of making the old man safe.
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Because having a gun did not deter the crime. The crime still happened.
Only the attempted robbery of her happened. We know for a fact the actual robbery was thwarted, and we can speculate that it may have prevented a deadly assault, a rape and possibly a murder.
Quick question for you. Would you rather be the victim of an attempted robbery or a robbery?
OTOH... one less criminal that we as a society would have to deal with. The POS could have easily chosen to be an upstanding and productive citizen, and not try to rob someone! Actions have consequences! Trying to rob people is a high risk "occupation" in which one tends to end up in prison, or dead.
I agree. But it doesn't mean the victim should be the one carrying out the justice...
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Of course the better option is to get away to a safe location. Don't be a hero, especially as a bystander to another crime. But as many in this thread have stated, there are so many possibilities and scenarios that you can't do a one-size-fits-all how to handle yourself as a victim. To think as such is just ignorant.
Yes, in many scenarios it is far safer to run away or just hand over the cash register or your wallet and be done. You just simply may not be capable of drawing your weapon even if you do have it, may be bystanders that could be hit by the bullet, may be a clear exit path to run, you may not be a direct target to the criminal, etc.
There are also many scenarios where that gun may save your life. One example was posted with the lady getting robbed.
Correct. Very good points.
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Originally Posted by beb0p
Fine. If you're the type of person to prefers to stand your ground, it's a free country.
But that is a different argument than "Guns make it safer for me than other options."
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The poster above said it better than I did. And as I said, I will always try to take the high road. However; again when the perp has barged into my home, the options are indeed limited and in that aspect I will stand my ground.
I agree. But it doesn't mean the victim should be the one carrying out the justice...
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She was PREVENTING crime.
Now you believe crime prevention should be avoided?
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Actions have consequences! Trying to rob people is a high risk "occupation" in which one tends to end up in prison, or dead.
