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"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
It is difficult for some to grasp what the founding fathers meant when they drew up this amendment.
My interpretation has always been based on the time the amendment was drawn up and adopted.
One has to understand that the war had just ended, and in the minds of the fathers, common people took up arms,and formed a militia to fight the British.
In that context, the people who took up arms to fight the British, were the "well regulated militia", and the fathers , by adopting the second amendment assured that the people who made up this 'well regulated militia" would have the right to bear arms.
I think the confusion is in "just who are the people"?
I do not believe the "people" meant each and every citizen of the country.
The amendment was aimed at the "people who formed a well regulated militia".
And there in lies the problem.
People for years have felt the fathers meant ALL people, when in fact it is only those who had formed a well regulated militia to ward of the British that the amendment was intended for.
Bob.
Wow, must take real talent to be so consistently wrong about everything.
How can you call yourself a constitutionalist if you want to deprive mentally ill citizens their right to bear arms? Isn't that gun regulation in itself?
I don't call myself a constitutionalist. Loonies shouldn't have guns for the same reason all speech isn't protected...it creates a public hazard.
Why are there so many mentally ill people on the street? Well, we can thank Reagan for that one. Today if you suspect a family member is going off the deep end and you don't have money or good insurance there is nothing you can do but wait until that family member commits a crime.
When Reagan shut down the mental institutions they gave their patient a 30 day supply of pills and sent they on their way. Most were in the prison system with in the first six months and the remainder were the beginning of the homeless. Reagan did not save a dime he merely shifted the cost from the mental health arena to the prison system.
Did Reagan’s Crazy Mental Health Policies Cause Today’s Homelessness? – Poverty Insights
Why do people think this was a bad thing?
I've heard about this several times across the internet, and it's like the people who bring it up are oblivious to the obvious fact that NO ONE WANTS TO BE INSTITUTIONALIZED.
I've heard about this several times across the internet, and it's like the people who bring it up are oblivious to the obvious fact that NO ONE WANTS TO BE INSTITUTIONALIZED.
The courts closed down the institutions. I've related the story about the mental institution that was in my state.......Now granted, the early history was not pretty, but that can be said of a lot of things.......
In the years before it closed they had a farm that the people who lived their worked to make an income for themselves and the hospital.....it also gave them a skill for when they were able to leave. They also created other things for the same reason.
The courts ruled that it was illegal to make the patients work for their keep and to help maintain the hospital. It soon was forced to close. It closed in 1994.....well after Reagan left office.
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
It is difficult for some to grasp what the founding fathers meant when they drew up this amendment.
My interpretation has always been based on the time the amendment was drawn up and adopted.
One has to understand that the war had just ended, and in the minds of the fathers, common people took up arms,and formed a militia to fight the British.
In that context, the people who took up arms to fight the British, were the "well regulated militia", and the fathers , by adopting the second amendment assured that the people who made up this 'well regulated militia" would have the right to bear arms.
I think the confusion is in "just who are the people"?
I do not believe the "people" meant each and every citizen of the country.
The amendment was aimed at the "people who formed a well regulated militia".
And there in lies the problem.
People for years have felt the fathers meant ALL people, when in fact it is only those who had formed a well regulated militia to ward of the British that the amendment was intended for.
Bob.
Would that imply that the only people that had the right of free speech was the PEOPLE in media?
The only ones that had freedom of religion were the PEOPLE that were church members?
The only PEOPLE that could not be forced to quarter troops were inn keepers?
The only PEOPLE who had protection from search and seizure were politicians?
Or, perhaps, did "the people" referred to in the 2nd amendment mean the same as it did in every other one of the bill of rights where "the people" were referred to?
How can you call yourself a constitutionalist if you want to deprive mentally ill citizens their right to bear arms? Isn't that gun regulation in itself?
Free speech laws have restrictions like defemation and harassment. Why wouldn't gun rights. And by the way the second amendment refers to militias, not private gun ownership.
Free speech laws have restrictions like defemation and harassment. Why wouldn't gun rights. And by the way the second amendment refers to militias, not private gun ownership.
The Supreme Court disagree's.
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