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Old 10-07-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Bordentown
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If someone is dying of cancer, is terminally ill and suffering, or whatever the reason.... it is none of anyone else's business. Why should the government or religion interfere? Let people choose their fate. Try walking in their shoes - years of pain and suffering that they had to endure. I'm sure you'd make the same decision.
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Old 10-07-2015, 03:02 PM
 
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Not sure I follow you. Are you saying that Republicans are against freedom and personal liberty?
If you are a woman or are gay, you would follow me easily.
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Old 10-07-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: OC/LA
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Not sure I follow you. Are you saying that Republicans are against freedom and personal liberty?
Yes.

Have you missed out on all the war on drugs, anti-gay marriage, anti-reproductive rights, etc. stance that the far right supports?

In case you actually want to read more about it (which I'm sure you do not):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social..._United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_right
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Old 10-07-2015, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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If you want to kill yourself then have at it.

No one has ever been prosecuted for commuting suicide. Makes you wonder why they even needed a law.
And how, precisely, does a bed-ridden and terminally ill patient 'have at it' without assistance? Perhaps you're imagining a long, excruciating hunger strike? The new law allows for the terminally ill to be provided with medicines to hasten their deaths in a quiet, peaceful manner of their own choosing. There was no way to do so before, that would not have put whoever provided the lethal medicines in legal jeopardy.

Of course, you knew this and yet still felt compelled to obtusely act like you didn't. And, of course, you knew that with suicide otherwise being illegal, preventative measures against suicide would be taken at such facilities that most terminally ilk patients reside. So in light of that, is there any particular reason for this ridiculous display of yours? Maybe you're annoyed that people now have this freedom, and you know you can't articulate any opposing argument that doesn't devolve nothing more than a foot-stamping "I don't like it!", and whining about a new law was the least ridiculous way you could think of to express your irritation at this new liberty?
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Old 10-07-2015, 04:40 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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These people are not killing themselves. They already have their death sentence. They are just choosing to go on their own terms without needlessly suffering.
Well said.

If this had been a law in CA when Brittany Maynard had terminal brain cancer at age 29, she wouldn't have had to go to Oregon.
Brittany Maynard's husband grateful in Portland as California approves 'death with dignity' (video) | OregonLive.com
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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If you want to kill yourself then have at it.

No one has ever been prosecuted for commuting suicide. Makes you wonder why they even needed a law.
1) People who try with a gun often botch it. Pills are much easier on everyone, including the person who has to find a living wreck. A person who survives such an attempt may be too brain-damaged to try it again, and will live out the rest of his/her life in even worse circumstances than the situation which led him/her to the attempt in the first place.

2) People who try with pills also often botch it. It isn't that easy to take a lethal dose of prescribed medication. Most doctors will not prescribe enough pills for you to kill yourself. And the pills that are prescribed for assisted suicide ensure that the people who take them fall peacefully asleep.

3) Doctors in states with assisted suicide laws cannot be prosecuted by a publicity-hungry prosecutor for malpractice or murder for providing a patient a lethal dose.

Note for the fact-challenged - in all four states where physician-assisted suicide is legal, the person has to be already terminally ill.
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:07 PM
 
Location: California
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Default Brown and the Democrats now allow you to kill yourself. (CA)

Now that the government will be involved I'm sure it will work out well.
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Now that the government will be involved I'm sure it will work out well.
Experience shows that it does indeed work out well.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about, or you'd know that assisted suicide laws stop the government from butting in.
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Bordentown
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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Now that the government will be involved I'm sure it will work out well.
Ehm - actually, the government got out of the way. If a terminally ill person wants a physisician to assist in ending his/her life, government has stopped interfering.
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