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Sure but only because you are only seeing cases where the system failed.
What you don't look at is how many mass shootings did not occur because the criminal or mentally ill person was not able to obtain a gun for some reason. Whether it is because of government screening or simply people practicing proper gun safety like locking their guns up in a secure location. In other words the shooting never happens so you do not hear about it.
Its hard to judge fairly when you only hear about failures and not success.
If I read correctly, it sounds like you're implying that mass shootings with guns purchased illegally are a problem. Yes, that is true. But gun control laws - such as background checks - would not stop any of that. That why guns "purchased illegally" are the problem. Not some dude looking to expand his gun collection hobby.
The vast majority of guns used in 15 recent mass shootings, including at least two of the guns used in the San Bernardino attack, were bought legally and with a federal background check. At least eight gunmen had criminal histories or documented mental health problems that did not prevent them from obtaining their weapons.
Criminal histories can range from jaywalking, to contempt of court. Felonies prevent gun ownership. So "criminal histories" is pretty vague. Given the massive number of Americans with criminal histories that are not felonies, banning them from gun ownership over misdemeanors is a massive over reach by the government.
And documented mental problems, adding them to a list of "your gun ownership is banned" would just mean LESS people would seek mental health.
your argument there is pretty bad once you look at it. The devil is in the details.
Background Checks Would Not Have Stopped Even A Single Recent Mass Shooting
Recent?
Try everyone of them.
Access to firearms, is a personal and individual right in the USA. That can be taken by no government, ever.
Give me Liberty, or give me death. I could careless about you. It is up to you to stand up to bullies, or cower to them, no skin off my back.
Criminal histories can range from jaywalking, to contempt of court. Felonies prevent gun ownership. So "criminal histories" is pretty vague. Given the massive number of Americans with criminal histories that are not felonies, banning them from gun ownership over misdemeanors is a massive over reach by the government.
And documented mental problems, adding them to a list of "your gun ownership is banned" would just mean LESS people would seek mental health.
your argument there is pretty bad once you look at it. The devil is in the details.
There was a day, they handed you your gun back, when you got out of jail. What changed in the meaning of the 2nd Amendment, since then?
He paid his debt to society, and he was once again a free man.
It was unconstitutional to keep the mans firearm. That's why.
FACT: Not one single recent mass shooting would have been stopped by a background check or expanded background check. In fact, all guns used in recent attacks were purchased legally. With one notable exception of course: The FBI failed to stop the Charleston shooter through the background check process already in place. THE FBI!
Now, Barack is poised to expand background checks to higher volume gun dealers, which will be 100% meaningless. Obviously.
Do liberals and Democrats understand this? If not, why not?
Indeed, the solution is simple : Amend the constitution to repeal the 2nd amendment, and pass a law making all guns illegal.
I used to support the second amendment , and I own about a dozen guns. But lately I have gotten the impression that gun supporters have no answer for routine mass shootings, and consider them an acceptable price to pay. I do not share that view.
I also don't think guns are an effective "weapon against tyranny," which is the other rationale I keep hearing.
FACT: Not one single recent mass shooting would have been stopped by a background check or expanded background check. In fact, all guns used in recent attacks were purchased legally. With one notable exception of course: The FBI failed to stop the Charleston shooter through the background check process already in place. THE FBI!
Now, Barack is poised to expand background checks to higher volume gun dealers, which will be 100% meaningless. Obviously.
Do liberals and Democrats understand this? If not, why not?
To argue background checks is foolish as the EO that obama wants in place covers far more than just background checks. He wants anyone seeling a gun at a show to have an FFL. Like making you get a car dealer license to sell your old car from your front lawn.
Criminal histories can range from jaywalking, to contempt of court. Felonies prevent gun ownership. So "criminal histories" is pretty vague. Given the massive number of Americans with criminal histories that are not felonies, banning them from gun ownership over misdemeanors is a massive over reach by the government.
And documented mental problems, adding them to a list of "your gun ownership is banned" would just mean LESS people would seek mental health.
your argument there is pretty bad once you look at it. The devil is in the details.
My argument is bad? You essentially made my argument for me! What you highlighted and said is exactly my point!
Indeed, the solution is simple : Amend the constitution to repeal the 2nd amendment, and pass a law making all guns illegal.
I used to support the second amendment , and I own about a dozen guns. But lately I have gotten the impression that gun supporters have no answer for routine mass shootings, and consider them an acceptable price to pay. I do not share that view.
I also don't think guns are an effective "weapon against tyranny," which is the other rationale I keep hearing.
Feel free to turn in your guns at the nearest police department. Thanks!
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