Do you ever wonder what it was like to grow up in America back when we had a society? (Israel, ethic)

[MTQ3000]

Originally Posted by KonaldDuth

According to polls that have been conducted over time, women in the 1950s were much happier than women are today.

What a cointydink, the blacks were much happier back in the 1950's, too. And they were even ecstatic before the emancipation!

Mick

[mtl1]

Originally Posted by ~HecateWhisperCat~

No thanks, I would rather hear your actual opinions, and not ones you grabbed out of a book.

My opinion is in a free, fair market not meddled with by the government people would hire and work with the best choice for them. Do you seriously think women and non-whites don't discriminate against others? The difference is they are allowed to.

[~HecateWhisperCat~]

Originally Posted by mtl1

My opinion is in a free, fair market not meddled with by the government people would hire and work with the best choice for them. Do you seriously think women and non-whites don't discriminate against others? The difference is they are allowed to.

That is what pretty much all business do in todays day and age. I don't know what you think otherwise. That has nothing to do with society not being fair to men. Are men somehow not able to find work anymore? And women and minorities eating up all the jobs? Until either is the case then your argument that it's not longer fair has no merit.

[MTQ3000]

Originally Posted by KonaldDuth

Do you ever wonder what it was like when we had common values, common religion, a real culture?

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I suspect that people who agree do not have to wonder, if you get my drift. . . . until they are afflicted with senility or Alzheimer's.

Mick

[~HecateWhisperCat~]

Originally Posted by MTQ3000

What a cointydink, the blacks were much happier back in the 1950's, too. And they were even ecstatic before the emancipation!

Mick

I just spit out my coffee .

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by mtl1

You just don't get it. I have many, many relatives that were born in the 1930s many of them still alive or were alive the past decade or two. They ALL described life back then has more normal, more fair and more prosperous and things today as bizarre and dystopian. The leftist brainwashed everyone from the 1960s onward. They do the same thing today.


I've seen the deterioration in America sense the 80s and 90s.

And we had a neighbor born right around then who thought the Great Depression was a good thing. What he'd often say was, "What this country needs is another Great Depression". So much for anecdotal reports from the past.

Life today is "bizarre and dystopian"? A bit of hyperbole, I think.

The left doesn't "brainwash" people any more than the right does. Again, hyperbole. It would help the conversation if you'd keep the vocabulary realistic.

[mtl1]

Originally Posted by ~HecateWhisperCat~

That is what pretty much all business do in todays day and age. I don't know what you think otherwise. That has nothing to do with society not being fair to men. Are men somehow not able to find work anymore? And women and minorities eating up all the jobs? Until either is the case then your argument that it's not longer fair has no merit.

It is the case that non-whites and foreigners are eating up America. This is government and corporate policy. They're all on that 'diversity' agenda.

[~HecateWhisperCat~]

Originally Posted by mtl1

It is the case that non-whites and foreigners are eating up America. This is government and corporate policy. They're all on that 'diversity' agenda.

So basically, your point is emotionally based with little actual data to back it up is what you are saying?

[mtl1]

Originally Posted by ~HecateWhisperCat~

So basically, your point is emotionally based with little actual data to back it up is what you are saying?

It's common knowledge that diversity, affirmative action, multiculturalism etc is government and corporate policy and the media too. We see and here it every day.


If you want some statistics on affirmative action read here:
Adversity.Net Home Page



computations whereas in prior years they used 1990 census data.
The feds exceed their hiring quotas for blacks in all 23 independent federal agencies.
In fact, in the top three independent federal agencies for black quota hires, the other preferred groups did not do so well.
[CENTER]]CSOS (Court Services and Offender Supervision Agency) overhired blacks by 808% over their proportion in the civilian labor force.GPO (U.S. Gov't Printing Office) overhired blacks by 503% over their proportion in the civilian labor force.
PBGC (the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation) overhired blacks by 409% over their proportion in the civilian labor force.


Almost all the other preferred race / gender groups in these three agencies were hired at rates at or below their proportion in the civilian labor force. Similarly, in 17 of the 18 federal executive departments, blacks were overhired by 14% to 363% over their proportion in the civilian labor force. The graphic below illustrates the dramatic overhiring of blacks by the top three federal executive departments:
HUD (U.S. Dept. of Housing and Urban Development) overhired blacks by 363% over their proportion in the civilian labor force.
Department of Education overhired blacks by 329% over their proportion in the civilian labor force.
And the U.S. Department of State overhired blacks by 231% over their proportion in the civilian labor force.




You ask for data then when I give it to you, you say, "I don't want to read someone else's information. I want your personal view". Then I give you my view, you say, "I want data and sources". No, you just want to argue in circles and obfuscate as lefties typically do.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by mtl1

You go around and around in circles. I'm talking about life in the '50s and comparing my grandmother's and grandfather's. I'm pointing out than men personally face hardships that women didn't. You make it out America was the Taliban before the late '60s. What feminist call fairness isn't fair, not to men and not even to every woman. That's the problem with leftist. They think only they know what's fair and right. Well they're wrong.

I remember the 1950s, and although life in a small town may have been a bit idyllic in some ways, there were also:

1. polio epidemics for which we had to line up in the gym to get our emergency polio shots
2. air raid drills where we had to hide under our schools desks (what a laugh) or even evacuate classrooms and hide in the school basement
3. the Korean War was in full swing
4. the McCarthy witch hunts began
5. air pollution was getting terrible
6. spying between the Soviet Union and the United States was rampant, resulting in things like the trail of the Rosenburgs
7. cigarette smoking was rampant and until the mid-1950s there was no real evidence that it caused cancer
8. segregation was a stain on this nation's reputation and caused great suffering
9. Sputnik put our country into pure panic mode
10. the rise of Mao Zedong
11. Castro took over Cuba; the Bay Of Pigs
12. Khrushchev on the rise
13. the race to develop the hydrogen bomb
14. assassination attempt on President Truman
15. constant international stress begins over division of Germany/Berlin
16. early stages of the Vietnam conflict, which eventually leads us into the Vietnam War
17. the Warsaw Pact solidifies the Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics
18. nation in panic over Eisenhower's heart attack and long recovery
19. civil rights struggles begin boiling over
20. war between Egypt and Israel over Sinai
21. Soviet troops put down uprisings in several countries, including Hungary and Poland
22. Eisenhower substantially increased aid to Vietnam and the Middle East

And that's just the tip of the good old days iceberg.