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Old 01-18-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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One out of the whole bunch probably did it legally, morally correct, and honestly
How did you arrive at this number?

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Steve JOB was an intelligent man- but public money got him started the rules are fixed so we the taxpayers who funded his Co get ZERO back
All the people who use the products he developed got something back.

 
Old 01-18-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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Oxfam is probably trolling and trying hard to be heard just before WEF.

If you count African countries(and some others) in those studies it becomes pure baloney.

In some measures you don't even count these economies cause there isn't even basics of a state.

These are failed states so practically they don't exist.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Did he have statistics on how many poor own cars or cell phones in that video?
About 90% of households have a car according to the US Department of Commerce.
Off hand I do not know the percentage of cell phones. If you hang outside of certain agencies providing aid in NY you will see lots of smart phones, lots of cigarettes, lots of tattoos, etc. The "average" poor person in America is not that poor. Of course some are.
The stat about cell phones is in the video but no cars. I don't think 90% of those below the poverty line have a car, that stat may be of all families.

However, if the poor live in rural areas, it certainly would make sense having access to a car to get a job.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 10:28 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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How did you arrive at this number?

All the people who use the products he developed got something back.
Many taxpayers can't even afford Apple products.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 10:30 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Oxfam is probably trolling and trying hard to be heard just before WEF.

If you count African countries(and some others) in those studies it becomes pure baloney.

In some measures you don't even count these economies cause there isn't even basics of a state.

These are failed states so practically they don't exist.
But the people there do exist.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 10:31 AM
 
Location: San Marcos, CA
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Ignoring everything else, there might be good reasons not to want too much income inequality, even if it's not a zero sum game.

Google will take you to some studies of the correlation between income inequality and lower levels of perceived happiness.

I'm not saying this is necessarily definitive (I'm not a psychologist, so I wouldn't want to pretend to be an expert on that), but it seems that there is at least a case to be made.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 10:36 AM
 
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Btw, someone said that the gap becomes wider because the poor are reproducing like rabbits.
In that link it says that the change takes place on both sides, the rich become richer and richer, and the poor poorer and poorer.

Just 62 people own as much wealth as half the world

"The wealth of those 62 one-percenters has risen by more than half-a-trillion dollars in the last five years, the report said. At the same time, the total owned by the poorest half has fallen by a trillion dollars.

In monetary terms, that club of 62 has seen its riches climb by $542 billion, or 44%, to $1.76 trillion since 2010. That’s as the less-fortunate half has seen its wealth slide by 41%."
 
Old 01-18-2016, 10:44 AM
 
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Btw, someone said that the gap becomes wider because the poor are reproducing like rabbits.
In that link it says that the change takes place on both sides, the rich become richer and richer, and the poor poorer and poorer.

Just 62 people own as much wealth as half the world

"The wealth of those 62 one-percenters has risen by more than half-a-trillion dollars in the last five years, the report said. At the same time, the total owned by the poorest half has fallen by a trillion dollars.

In monetary terms, that club of 62 has seen its riches climb by $542 billion, or 44%, to $1.76 trillion since 2010. That’s as the less-fortunate half has seen its wealth slide by 41%."
This is also a factor

Bill Gates doesn't have many children but some folks in Africa have

I have a topic in Great Debates section about overpopulation and this came there as well.

A control mechanism of poor population would definitely help
 
Old 01-18-2016, 10:46 AM
 
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Lots of corporations use the assistance of government when it provides them something at a lower cost than other alternatives. Why wouldn't they?

"Sure, I could either go the bank and get a loan for 8% or go to the small business administration and get the loan for 3%, I guess I'll do the 8%" Hardly anybody is going to do this.

Most businesses are going to do what is in their best interests. If this means getting research from a government organization like DARPA, why wouldn't they?

However, pretending that people and/or companies wouldn't have been able to receive the funding, R&D or infrastructure help without government is ridiculous. Government have allowed for cheaper financing, research at a lower cost and/or ahead of schedule, but that doesn't mean there would have been no financing option or that the research wouldn't have been accomplished.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 11:00 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Crazy. One year before it was still the 80 richest people, so the inequality is accelerating.

One reason for that exploding inequality they say is that 9 out of 10 big corporations make use of tax havens in order to avoid paying taxes. This costs developing countries where those companies are active more than 100 billion dollars per year.

Why doesn't anyone do anything about that? I don't get it, really. There are global trade and other organizations, which could simply rule that income has to be fully taxed where it is earned, no matter where, without exception.
It is all legal and the tax code was guarded by democtrat charlie rangel. Charlie allowed enough loopholes to make business more profitable for, whatever reason? ask Charlie.
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