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Old 02-06-2016, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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So now the final 4 are telling the militia to go home, and that if they try to get them out they will be "met with force".
It sounds like these idiots want to be martyrs.
Militia group backs down, billboards go up in support of law enforcement as fifth week of Oregon standoff comes to an end | OregonLive.com

 
Old 02-06-2016, 08:13 AM
 
Location: United States
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Link?
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Do you have a link to this?
It was already posted in this thread, or the other one.

I don't have time to do a lot of research into haw this was settled, but it may have been settled with an appropriation bill that forced the BLM to comply with the law, or have funding withheld.

If anyone is interested, Congressman Greg Walden discusses it. He is the one that wrote the legislation to create the land cooperative in Oregon.
 
Old 02-06-2016, 08:27 AM
 
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You need to provide something to back up these claims. It seems dubious that an appropriations bill for a federal agency could be used to enforce a state law.

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It was already posted in this thread, or the other one.

I don't have time to do a lot of research into haw this was settled, but it may have been settled with an appropriation bill that forced the BLM to comply with the law, or have funding withheld.

If anyone is interested, Congressman Greg Walden discusses it. He is the one that wrote the legislation to create the land cooperative in Oregon.
 
Old 02-06-2016, 08:28 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Well that explains a lot…

There are 16,000 miles of public trails on federal lands, who do you think pays to maintain them?

There are 58,150 wild horses and burros on federal land, who do you think pays to manage them?

There are 1,590 species of plants and animals most if not all inhabit federal lands, who will pay to protect them?

As for fire protection and suppression, one major fire could bankrupt a county and severely stress state budgets for years seeing how the annual cost to the federal government is in excess of $3 billion per year.

But alas I see the problem, your idea is that federal lands should be turned over to the state for the purpose of private sale. Gotcha, the exact opposite of why we have federal lands in the first place. Lands that are to be enjoyed and experienced by the American public, to protect native and wild species for posterity, not to be carved up for ranchers, miners, loggers, shopping malls and McMansion housing developers.

Sorry but the land is not for sale!

A dirt path, needs only to be traveled to be maintained. If not the overgrowth, takes over any path.
If a path is not traveled, is it really a natural path.

If the wild is managed, it is no longer wild.

Fire is the only concerns, in the wide open wilderness, federal, state, county.... Ask Bastrop, County... TX.
 
Old 02-06-2016, 08:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Those - aren't judges.



The customary ue of the Malheur wildlife refuge, since 1908, is to be a refuge.

Yuo. Which is why the Bundys will be spending a long time in jail. Sad, but the choice was theirs.

Yeah, see, here's the thing: "The ranchers" is not the same thing as "The people".
The Government had no authority, to take for themselves, and the state had no authority to give it away.
Ranchers are people, and no charges have been officially filed on Ammon, or Ryan Bundy.
 
Old 02-06-2016, 08:34 AM
 
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Ranchers are people, and no charges have been officially filed on Ammon, or Ryan Bundy.
Wrong. As usual.

http://res.cloudinary.com/bdy4ger4/i...ent_cctuf1.pdf
 
Old 02-06-2016, 08:38 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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A reporter fro OPB who attended Finicum's funeral said it was open casket. So much for the reports of him being shot in the face.

Got the story?
The family of LaVoy, says, different.
He was shot in the face.

It is not against the law to peacefully protest, while armed.
The Federal Government’s purpose in killing Lavoy Finicum, wasn’t to kill a man but rather to kill the idea that he represented.

He was on his way to share that very idea with the group gathered in John Day, Oregon, and it is the idea I want to share with all of you.

The Federal Government has destroyed the constitution and chains with which it was once bound, and the time is coming for the people to step up as the jealous guardians of our God-given rights guaranteed by the constitution.

I firmly believe that the time is coming when this idea will come to fruition. The government is afraid of such an idea, and they should be. It is a powerful idea. It is an idea that the Federal Government does not want the American people to believe in. It is an idea worth killing over according to the government, and it is the idea we should all be talking about.
 
Old 02-06-2016, 08:47 AM
 
Location: DC
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The world is a better place with the Bundys in jail and the Finicums in the ground.
 
Old 02-06-2016, 08:47 AM
 
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Got the story?
The family of LaVoy, says, different.
He was shot in the face.
People who attended the funeral--supporters of LaVoy and the fake patriots--reported that he was dressed in traditional Mormon burial clothes. Not a single account of the funeral mentions him being shot in the face. There would have been no open casket if that had been true.

Where is the family's autopsy report? Why are they keeping that a secret?
 
Old 02-06-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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Got the story?
The family of LaVoy, says, different.
He was shot in the face.
His daughter had said that, and she lied.

"Finicum’s funeral included an open wooden casket custom made by the family, and The Spectrum & Daily News' tweets noting his face appeared unmarred generated a volume of replies on social media."

Link: Finicum remembered as father, husband, patriot
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