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Old 02-13-2016, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Originally Posted by RMESMH View Post
There isn't a material difference between the two unless you think Obama is going to nominate someone who doesn't closely mirror his ideology, or you are saying there would be a very specific proverbial elephant in the room.
He isn't going to pick a conservative, but he may nominate a moderate.

 
Old 02-14-2016, 12:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Seacove View Post
And if the Democrats take the Senate in November, there would be time for Obama to choose a replacement and the new Senate to vote and approve it before he left office.
Interesting point. This could be why Obama wasn't specific re a timetable for the nomination.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Interesting point. This could be why Obama wasn't specific re a timetable for the nomination.
My guess is he announces his appointment by the time the Senate is back in session on th 22nd and if not shortly thereafter.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 12:39 AM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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I just pray that Obama doesn't nominate another justice like Thomas. He's too quiet and I can't remember any interesting opinions he has written.
I'm curious why you mentioned this, since Obama did not nominate Clarence Thomas. He was nominated by Bush Sr.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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Republicans are screwed. They will block his nomination and guarantee a victory for the Democrats

Lol. I love it


No the country is screwed. The nation is more divided than it has been in living memory. The election of 2016 is the most messed up in living memory. In fact with the parties dividing themselves between radicals and moderates, the possibility of more than two candidates on the ballot in Novemember and some serious radicals on both sides running this election could resemble the election of 1860. There is seething anger on both left and right because of events of the past year or so. (Fergusson, Obamacare, Gay marriage edict) Blue states and red states line up in a way that resembles the divisions of civil war era America. The only thing holding this nation together is our shared prosperity, if that were lost its over. In case you haven't noticed the stock market is teetering toward another serious correction, and this time there is no money to bail out the banks, car companies so the depression would just happen. Now we add to it a huge, hateful battle in Washington over a Supreme Court nominee. This is a dangerous period in our history, these divisions cannot go on forever with no cost to the unity and security of our nation. The radicalization of our political system has led to this danger. We have an open SOCIALIST leading the democratic party. We have a dangerous zenophobic candidate leading the republican party. How can anyone be happy about what is happening to this country? There was a time when the democrat and republican were only moderately different, but you could count on the fact that they both were intelligent, experienced and loved this nation. We no longer can count on that. We are in fact a nation in steep decline.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 12:53 AM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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Originally Posted by Wayland Woman View Post
I didn't say Republicans who block Obama's nomination based on ideology were evil. I said they are evil if the only reason they block a nomination is because it was Obama doing the nomination.
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Originally Posted by RMESMH View Post
There isn't a material difference between the two unless you think Obama is going to nominate someone who doesn't closely mirror his ideology, or you are saying there would be a very specific proverbial elephant in the room.
I see 2 entirely different statements. The first says the GOP has no excuse to block Obama except for their hate and resentment. The second talks about the type of justice a president selects. Of course every president nominates someone who has similar ideals. It would make no sense to do otherwise.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 12:56 AM
 
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Originally Posted by danielj72 View Post
No the country is screwed. The nation is more divided than it has been in living memory. The election of 2016 is the most messed up in living memory. In fact with the parties dividing themselves between radicals and moderates, the possibility of more than two candidates on the ballot in Novemember and some serious radicals on both sides running this election could resemble the election of 1860. There is seething anger on both left and right because of events of the past year or so. (Fergusson, Obamacare, Gay marriage edict) Blue states and red states line up in a way that resembles the divisions of civil war era America. The only thing holding this nation together is our shared prosperity, if that were lost its over. In case you haven't noticed the stock market is teetering toward another serious correction, and this time there is no money to bail out the banks, car companies so the depression would just happen. Now we add to it a huge, hateful battle in Washington over a Supreme Court nominee. This is a dangerous period in our history, these divisions cannot go on forever with no cost to the unity and security of our nation. The radicalization of our political system has led to this danger. We have an open SOCIALIST leading the democratic party. We have a dangerous zenophobic candidate leading the republican party. How can anyone be happy about what is happening to this country? There was a time when the democrat and republican were only moderately different, but you could count on the fact that they both were intelligent, experienced and loved this nation. We no longer can count on that. We are in fact a nation in steep decline.
Well said. Even though I'm a fan of Trump I agree that I don't remember democrats and republicans being so far apart. Crazy times.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 01:14 AM
 
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It's a dumb suggestion and if he was so smart, he wouldn't have made it.
Smart people sometimes do dumb things, but I think this tweet could be looked at through a calculated political lens, not just on its face as a response re Scalia. Might be genuine, might not be. Remember, once elected, Obama's vision re who would have input fashioning healthcare legislation wasn't consistent with what he projected during the 2008 campaign.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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hasn't he wanted death for gays? I know an eye for eye leaves the whole world blind and all but yeah, that rhetoric causes issues.
A quick Google search of "Scalia death gays" turned up nothing. Admittedly, I'm not going to search through 100 pages of results, but I am not familiar with Scalia having that stance.

I'll give you that he was not going to be the Grand Marshal in a gay pride parade, but I'd have to see a link, preferably video, of him saying that, to believe it. Seems a bit out of character for a SJ Justice.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 01:51 AM
 
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First of all, the death of a Supreme Court justice is different from the passing of just about any other elected official
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Supreme Court justices aren't elected officials.
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