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Seems the vote was more on emotion than practicality. For the everyday Brit food prices will rise. Those that normally take a holiday aboard will find airfare more expensive and the pound worth less. Lots and lots of EU jobs will be relocated with someone other than a Brit getting that salary. As the saying goes, beware of what feels good or what you vote for.
Seems the vote was more on emotion than practicality. For the everyday Brit food prices will rise. Those that normally take a holiday aboard will find airfare more expensive and the pound worth less. Lots and lots of EU jobs will be relocated with someone other than a Brit getting that salary. As the saying goes, beware of what feels good or what you vote for.
This is what I was expecting:
Firms plan to quit UK as City braces for more post-Brexit losses
So many US companies have large UK offices because they speak English and are in the EU. It's a simple solution. With them out of the EU, companies will react quickly.
I think many Brits were voting with their hearts and not their heads. Case in point, a surge in google searches by Brits querying "What is the EU?" and "What is Brexit?" AFTER the votes had already been cast!
The global elitists and sell-out Hillary leftists sound off with their usual weak arguments....
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Originally Posted by UB50
Whats even crazier than "the elites" trying to stop Brexit is the rubes in the rural areas thinking they can still get EU funds even if the country isn't part of the EU.
What EU funds?
The EU is all but bankrupt.
And the money it does have comes mostly from Britain and Germany.
Left-leaning globalist sources -- what a surprise.
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This would be the equivalent of people in Tennessee voting for Trump and then wondering why their Social Security checks are smaller if he were elected. (He said he was open to cutting SS, which is a Ryan pet project.)
Trump has said that he will not cut Social Security or Medicare.
But nice try anyway.
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Originally Posted by UB50
Scotland is a separate country from England
No, it isn't.
England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are all part of one country -- Britain.
Scotland recently held a referendum to leave Britain and voted against it.
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Originally Posted by JAMS14
Tell that to the people of Cornwall, who are only now just realizing that they just forfeited all of the millions of dollars the county was depending on, and all of the projects that the EU had in the works for that depressed area, projects that would mean jobs.
Yeah, I bet most of that money went to pay for immigrants and refugees.
And the EU itself does not have money other than what member countries have contributed to it.
That basically means Britain and Germany.
Britain is going to keep its money and decide how it's spent on its own.
I have no doubt that it was getting less from the EU than it was putting in -- a lot less.
This is bad. This would be like Wall Street relocating to Canada.
Other European capitals are keen for a slice of Britain's financial services industry which contributed 190 billion pounds ($280 billion) to the economy in 2014, roughly 12 percent of economic output. Ireland said on Friday it had been in touch with firms considering relocating.
Losing 12% of your economy is a really bad thing. But how could banks do business in the EU if they aren't located in the EU? It makes no sense for them to stay in London.
Wow, from the above post you would think that there were no electronic money transfers, that Swiss banks didn't exist, and that international business only benefits those people where the banks and companies are located.
Right.
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Originally Posted by Sugah Ray
Trump not long ago didn't even know what Brexit was or he thought Scotland voted to get out of the European Union.
Your evidence for this?
None.
Thought so.
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Originally Posted by jbgusa
If she's a desirable addition to a Scandinavian country why can't she apply for local citizenship on her merits? These countries are accepting rapists who pray five times a day and who have no qualifications. Why does she need a super-bureaucracy to ensure her future?
Good point.
An American friend of mine is a professor of physics at a university in Denmark.
If she's a desirable addition to a Scandinavian country why can't she apply for local citizenship on her merits? These countries are accepting rapists who pray five times a day and who have no qualifications. Why does she need a super-bureaucracy to ensure her future?
More complex than that. And a question that is now open of what happens next. She is half way through a language immersion prorgram to develop the required language skills than she has to get the suitable job. The permits and all that were automatic and once past the language barrier she was pretty well set. Now she becomes a more risky hire as she may end up unable to get the required permits to work.
Also has bad career damaging possibilities if she starts down this track and gets blocked.
My niece, an English Jr. Doctor, is working on a researchy job in Scandinavia. She could well be forced back home in a year or so and has to consider whether to try and ride this out or return to England.
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Originally Posted by lvmensch
She is half way through a language immersion prorgram to develop the required language skills than she has to get the suitable job. The permits and all that were automatic and once past the language barrier she was pretty well set. Now she becomes a more risky hire as she may end up unable to get the required permits to work.
So you've changed your story....
First she has a job ("is working on a research job in Scandinavia"), then she doesn't ("she is half way through a language immersion program to develop the language skills that she needs to get a suitable job").
If she doesn't have a job, what's the great loss if she has to go back to England?
It's the first successful blowback against the global elite that I've ever seen in my lifetime. Never thought I'd live to see it. People always just talked against it, now they're actually doing something about it. Obviously the global elite isn't going to go down without a fight.
What has happened in Britain is massive, and still unfolding. We joined the EU in 1973, under the leadership of the then Prime Minister, Edward Heath. Even then, there was unrest. Heath had a dispute with the miners in 1974, and called a general election on who runs the country - me, or the unions? He lost the election.
Harold Wilson and his Labour Party won the election, and promised a vote about continued membership of the Common Market, as it was known then. He reckoned our terms of entry were poor, and wanted a better deal. He negotiated, and came back recommending a vote to remain. Harold sensibly, unlike our present Prime Minister David Cameron, kept out of the fray, and let others fight it out in the public arena. On a 65% turnout, 67% voted to stay.
We then settled down into the Common Market, with their rules including freedom of movement. Very few people chose to come and live in Britain, from the core membership of the EU, which included Germany, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium, and Luxembourg. The EU now comprises of 28 countries.
The years passed, and we got on with our lives. Margaret Thatcher came to power in 1979. She felt the financial rules were still stacked against the UK. She negotiated, and managed to get us a rebate on our contribution to the EU coffers. A rebate we still get today. She was still unhappy with many things about the EU, especially it's morphing from a collection of countries with open borders for trade, to an expanding in size EU, becoming more political, and even mentioning a possible joint currency down the line.
We always grumbled about the EU, but got on with things. The real problems for us came with the expansion of the EU to include former Communist bloc countries like Poland. In 2004, Poland gained entry into the EU, and gained free movement within the EU. Most countries put up a block of a few years against the right to work for the Polish people. Under Tony Blair's leadership, the UK gave Polish people the right to work here. All the talk was of a possible 10,000 or so people moving to the UK. In fact, about 790,000 came over in a very short period of time. Others from poor countries like Bulgaria and Romania came. We then, especially in London, found some of these people were Roma gypsies, despised in their own countries. Among them, gangs of pickpockets looking for easy pickings, and some thinking they were coming to the land of milk and honey.
Quickly, the mood changed here. We were being told by government, isn't this great? All these people coming here to work, and help grow the economy. This isn't what our eyes told us. The strains on housing, especially rents, social services, schools, the NHS, and in some parts of the country, massive, and very quick change in the demographics of many towns. A great sense of unease quickly arrived. Each year, the net immigration figures increased. Last year up to 260,000. It dawned on us that this isn't going to stop, and in fact, seems to be increasing.
Under pressure from fears of voters moving to UKIP, whose platform was leaving the EU, and slowing immigration, David Cameron promised a vote on remaining membership of the EU three years ago. He said, if he was reelected, a vote would go ahead. He thought it would be easy to win. As usual the elite, in their London bubble, didn't see the growing unrest in the rest of especially England.
I couldn't believe it....... we were going to get a vote. The powers that be had been stupid enough to do so. I knew we would win an out vote. The four weeks or so before the vote, we were bombarded with threats from all directions. The government, the IMF, President Obama, the EU, our own Chancellor of the Exchequer, promising tax rises immediately after a no vote. It was relentless. The day came, and all in government and the EU were confident of victory for the in camp. Financial districts around the world sat happily waiting for the result. We voted out, and the elite went into meltdown.
The whole rotten political class is unraveling here in London. Both major politic parties are in crisis, and there is no sign of leadership. Prime Minister David Cameron resigned, his threatening Chancellor hasn't been seen publicly since the vote, a general election is looming, and the opposition are in meltdown. 10 members of the Labour party shadow cabinet resigned yesterday, refusing to work under their leader, Jeremy Corbyn. He refuses to quit, and seems a little nuts to the rest of us. This Labour party is who we are supposed to vote for as a change of government. Both major parties are running round like headless chickens, seemingly not knowing what to do next.
Rumours of refusal to accept the result of the vote abound. The political elite don't want to leave the EU, and are all going to return to Parliament today to talk about it, and no doubt start scheming. Well, we are all watching with interest at what comes next...........
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