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Of course it counts. Every vote you take counts. Its democracy at work and only those who do not vote do not understand or care.
Everyone should vote and we should be looking to make voting easier. Mr Meeks is voicing his preference and has every right to. This is the system the democratic party uses, if you are a member of the party get the system changed.
If all you want to do is troll go to a different site.
IF individuals' votes really counted there would've been a President Gore.
Your vote does not count, so why vote at all?
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“I would not under any circumstances switch my allegiance from Secretary Clinton to Senator Sanders,” Queens Congressman Gregory Meeks said.
The other four New York superdelegates — who can pledge and withdraw their allegiance to a nominee based on their personal preference — also would never pull their support from Clinton, their spokespeople said. They all spoke anonymously for fear of insulting either campaign.
Are you going to complain when someone other than Trump or Cruz gets the nomination at the brokered Republican Convention? A majority of the voters would not have wanted that individual. However, it is a private organization with its own rules.
Of course it counts. Every vote you take counts. Its democracy at work and only those who do not vote do not understand or care.
Everyone should vote and we should be looking to make voting easier. Mr Meeks is voicing his preference and has every right to. This is the system the democratic party uses, if you are a member of the party get the system changed.
If all you want to do is troll go to a different site.
Who knew it was so difficult to vote??????????????????
There's nothing to "admit" this hasn't been a freaking secret. The names of the Super Delegates and who they endorsed has been public information since before the first primary!
Actually the primary is to elect delegates to the Democratic national convention.
Super Delegates represent the Democratic Party, their decisions were made well before any primaries or caucuses and are an important part of the party's process of winnowing out weak or deranged candidates (See Donald Trump). This is has it has been for decades following the debacle of the Carter and McGovern presidential campaigns.
I have no idea why I have to repeat this over and over again!
It didn't have as much to do with Carter (who won in 76) as it did McGovern in 72-it's about keeping out real progressive candidates like McGovern-was was an anti-war candidate and today Bernie Sanders. The DNC also shunned real progressives like Jessie Jackson, Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich. The Democratic Party is no different than the Republican Party in that regard, both owned and controlled by party elites heavily funded by Wall Street, fossil fuel industry, war corporations and big-pharma.
It's why today there are more Independents than Repubs/Dems combined and their stranglehold on our political process cannot last.
"The Democratic Party and its major office holders, with few exceptions, are funded by predatory corporate interests: too-big-to-fail banks, fossil fuel giants, war profiteers, for-profit prisons, Big Pharma and the like. With corporate funding providing its lifeblood, counter-revolution is hardwired into the party.
Over the past many decades, the Democratic Party has repeatedly offered up progressive presidential candidates but consistently sabotaged those campaigns to prevent them from winning the nomination. After the anti-war advocate George McGovern won the 1972 nomination, the party created a system to block insurgent candidates. Superdelegates or conservative insiders provide a margin of safety for status quo candidates. Holding multiple simultaneous primaries on Super Tuesdays requires large sums of money. These two means safeguard against future grass-roots rebellions.
Where necessary, the party has used smear campaigns and back-stabbing to take down its reformers. The anti-war candidate Howard Dean was disabled by the “Dean Scream” ads portraying him as a madman, while Jesse Jackson was marginalised by a smear campaign painting him as anti-Semitic. Dennis Kucinich was denied admission to the debates and then redistricted out of his congressional seat. While the party marginalises its rebels, it benefits from the illusion of progressive figureheads, even as it becomes more corporatist, militarist and imperialist by the year. So these presidential campaigns that lift up the best of the party actually enable it to fake-Left but keep marching to the Right." http://www.frontline.in/world-affair...?homepage=true
It didn't have as much to do with Carter (who won in 76) as it did McGovern in 72-it's about keeping out real progressive candidates like McGovern-was was an anti-war candidate and today Bernie Sanders. The DNC also shunned real progressives like Jessie Jackson, Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich. The Democratic Party is no different than the Republican Party in that regard, both owned and controlled by party elites heavily funded by Wall Street, fossil fuel industry, war corporations and big-pharma.
It's why today there are more Independents than Repubs/Dems combined and their stranglehold on our political process cannot last.
I'm puzzled. I clearly remember seeing both Kucinich and Jackson as they were campaigning. They were officially running in all the primaries, no one stopped them from running as Ds.
It's true they didn't win the nomination, but that's because not enough registered Ds voted for them.
Most times, a candidate loses because s/he doesn't get enough votes. It's pretty simple, really.
BTW, Kucinich was redistricted out of his seat by the R Ohio legislature, not the DNC.
I'm puzzled. I clearly remember seeing both Kucinich and Jackson as they were campaigning. They were officially running in all the primaries, no one stopped them from running as Ds.
It's true they didn't win the nomination, but that's because not enough registered Ds voted for them.
Most times, a candidate loses because s/he doesn't get enough votes. It's pretty simple, really.
BTW, Kucinich was redistricted out of his seat by the R Ohio legislature, not the DNC.
Ohio lost Kucenichs's seat because of population changes.
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