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Old 06-11-2016, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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I'm 58 years old, and I can't remember a day in my life that I did trust the government. The problem was, I learned to read early and was reading newspapers by age 4. I skipped right past the Age of Ignorant Illusion. I thought Kennedy had been murdered by a conspiracy right from the moment I watched Walter Cronkite report it that evening; to me, it was very much like figuring out there was no Santa Claus - it just didn't make logical sense.

There is not one single solitary thing happening in our country today that I did not expect to happen, and not one thing that surprises me in the least.
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Started with the Johnson Administration and Vietnam. Then you had Nixon and Watergate.In last decade you had Bush and the suppose WOMD in Iraq. I tihnk there always been some small distrust in the Government but in last 100 years but since the 1960s it has grown a lot more and in the last decade people have became more vocal.
Agreed-and the alignment between the will of the American people and action taken by Government has become more and more disconnected that today studies prove our system is an oligarchy, with the approval rating of Congress to match it (lowest in recorded history-sub 10%).

The real question is who DOES still trust our Government?
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Old 06-11-2016, 08:46 AM
 
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I'm 58 years old, and I can't remember a day in my life that I did trust the government. The problem was, I learned to read early and was reading newspapers by age 4. I skipped right past the Age of Ignorant Illusion. I thought Kennedy had been murdered by a conspiracy right from the moment I watched Walter Cronkite report it that evening; to me, it was very much like figuring out there was no Santa Claus - it just didn't make logical sense.

There is not one single solitary thing happening in our country today that I did not expect to happen, and not one thing that surprises me in the least.
You saw 9/11 coming, did you? Even worse, Trump?

Shoulda said something...
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Old 06-11-2016, 08:48 AM
 
Location: louisville
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Because we always should as originally setup.
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Old 06-11-2016, 09:46 AM
 
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I'm not bothered by anything that happens in the U.S. I have a strong constitution.
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Old 06-11-2016, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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You saw 9/11 coming, did you? Even worse, Trump?

Shoulda said something...
Quite frankly, I believe that anyone who was genuinely surprised by either occurrence would have had to have been an idiot.
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Old 06-11-2016, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The real question is who DOES still trust our Government?
Well, actions speak louder than words.

We still have people voting, pro-DUI checkpoints, pro-eminent domain, etc.

I'd say 99% of the population is still suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. They love their shackles.
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Old 06-11-2016, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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Robert Macnamara and Vietnam was the very beginning and it all went down hill from there.
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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The real question is who DOES still trust our Government?
I do. I don't believe the government is different from the people because the people of this great country are the government. A lot of people will disagree with this and that's fine, but I believe that government, especially in a democracy or republic, is just people working together for the greater good.

Now people aren't always honest with each other and as such of course they're probably have been cases of that with the government.
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I do. I don't believe the government is different from the people because the people of this great country are the government. A lot of people will disagree with this and that's fine, but I believe that government, especially in a democracy or republic, is just people working together for the greater good.

Now people aren't always honest with each other and as such of course they're probably have been cases of that with the government.
What you fail to grasp is the notion of people making up the government means government can only do what people themselves as individuals have the right to do.

If I can't, as an individual, take X% of your income at gunpoint (taxes) then how can me + 1 other person be allowed to do so?

Collectivism of a majority opinion doesn't change the fact that an individual can't do something. If that was the case then we'd all be able to fly cuz I bet at least 51% of the population thinks it would be cool to have that ability.
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