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Old 04-27-2016, 01:26 PM
 
Location: The Commonwealth of Virginia
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Originally Posted by phetaroi View Post
You asked for people's opinions...and now this post.
Yes, I did ask for opinions. I was expecting, yes, you were ok, No, you were an ass. (And got both of those responses.) I wasn't expecting somebody to say that I might have psychologically damaged the kid for years.


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Old 04-27-2016, 01:30 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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That was not your place in any way, and you do not know this kid. I know many teens who have weight problems due do thyroid conditions and very serious ones. Sometimes unless you get this checked by a Doctor, these kids have no way of knowing, and either do you. He could have a number of medical issues related to weight. Maybe not, but that was not your place.


It is of his family and his Doctor. Instead of helping some kids out, remarks like this, stay with them for a mighty long time. And no this was not the best advice this kid could have gotten. Remarks like this, scar some children and stay with them a very long time. I see heavy kids all the time, and they purge on food that definitely they should not be. But that is not my place to tell them, it is the Parent's and those who love them. Do I look at what some over weight kids eat, yes I look I am human, but definitely not my place to say a crude remark of any kind to them. None of my business period
 
Old 04-27-2016, 01:30 PM
 
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You think the kids who stormed Normandy would have had an issue with some guy in a barbershop telling them they needed to get into shape?


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My father jumped out of a perfectly good airplane on D-Day.

Would he have an issue with you? Lol....you wouldn't have been on his radar unless you made a big deal about being in the military with some kid who was there for a haircut, not a quick lecture on physical fitness, or tried to use it as an excuse for bad behavior. He mentored DOZENS of young kids as a coach and Scout leader. I doubt he ever told some random kid he needed to get in shape.

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Old 04-27-2016, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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What about seeing a kid puffing away on a cigarette -is it one's business then?
 
Old 04-27-2016, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Keep in mind, I didn't tell him he was heavy. Or pudgy. Or fat. I told him he needed to get into shape. After saying that he was beginning to look like a Marine (an obvious reference to the Marine Corps JROTC clothes he was wearing).


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Maybe if you said , now you got to build up those muscles . I see you are a strong looking guy already. Add something positive so as not to make him feel out of shape. Chubby kids know they are chubby.. no one has to tell them. They need encouragement and a positive way in speaking as not to diminish their self esteem. We all have our strengths and weaknesses and we need to help and encourage each other in a positive way.

I am sure you are a kind person, with great self esteem.. many kids crumble because they have not had much positive reinforcement in their lives.. we all have had a different path and can't see what that kid has been through.. he could have been picked on for being fat and it could be a very sensitive topic to him.
We don't know.. You wouldn't post this if you didn't care about it. That says a great deal about you and wonder if you were wrong or not.

I have said some things in my life without thinking .. and had to apologize for them . No one can say they never said something that didn't offend someone.
 
Old 04-27-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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So, I'm in the barbershop yesterday, getting a haircut. This chubby kid walks in. He's maybe 13 or 14 years old. He's wearing athletic shorts and a t-shirt, both emblazoned with the local High School Marine Corps JRTOC program.

He gets in the chair across the room, by the cash register. My haircut is done, I walk over to cash register to pay. The kid is 3/4 of the way to high and tight. Big difference. A big pile of hair on the floor. As I pass by I said, "Now you're starting to look like a Marine."

I pay for the haircut, and as I turn to leave, I looked at him and said, "Now you need to get in shape." He looked at me blankly.

I mentioned this to my GF. She was aghast. She said I was being rude. I mentioned it to my boss, and she said I was being "mean." That some "old guy, stranger" wasn't the person to tell that to some kid in a barber shop. She suggested if the kid's mom had been there I could have gotten a punch in the eye.

So, was I really out of line? I'm career military. I see a pudgy kid in a barber shop, who seems interested in Marine Corps JROTC, and I told him he needs to get into shape. I wasn't mean about it. I was matter-of-fact about.

Are we really to the point where our precious little snowflakes shouldn't be "exposed" to a man who tells them they should get into shape?

You think the kids who stormed Normandy would have had an issue with some guy in a barbershop telling them they needed to get into shape?


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What if a complete stranger stopped by your table in a restaurant, and handed you a business card and said, "This is my cardiologist. Make an appointment."?

Unsolicited advice, whether meant to be helpful or not, can be insulting or hurtful. You don't have enough information about this kid to give you a foundation for offering such advice.
 
Old 04-27-2016, 01:40 PM
 
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So, I'm in the barbershop yesterday, getting a haircut. This chubby kid walks in. He's maybe 13 or 14 years old. He's wearing athletic shorts and a t-shirt, both emblazoned with the local High School Marine Corps JRTOC program.

He gets in the chair across the room, by the cash register. My haircut is done, I walk over to cash register to pay. The kid is 3/4 of the way to high and tight. Big difference. A big pile of hair on the floor. As I pass by I said, "Now you're starting to look like a Marine."

I pay for the haircut, and as I turn to leave, I looked at him and said, "Now you need to get in shape." He looked at me blankly.

I mentioned this to my GF. She was aghast. She said I was being rude. I mentioned it to my boss, and she said I was being "mean." That some "old guy, stranger" wasn't the person to tell that to some kid in a barber shop. She suggested if the kid's mom had been there I could have gotten a punch in the eye.

So, was I really out of line? I'm career military. I see a pudgy kid in a barber shop, who seems interested in Marine Corps JROTC, and I told him he needs to get into shape. I wasn't mean about it. I was matter-of-fact about.

Are we really to the point where our precious little snowflakes shouldn't be "exposed" to a man who tells them they should get into shape?

You think the kids who stormed Normandy would have had an issue with some guy in a barbershop telling them they needed to get into shape?


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What kind of adult insults random children they don't even know in public settings? This is the kind of offhand comment that could really mess with a CHILD possibly leading to an eating disorder or even suicide. It would be tough as an adult to just shrug off that kind of ahole comment, as a young child it could be disastrous to his psyche. IMO, you are one sick POS. Do you also light stray puppies on fire?

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Old 04-27-2016, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Originally Posted by Taratova View Post
Maybe if you said , now you got to build up those muscles . I see you are a strong looking guy already. Add something positive so as not to make him feel out of shape. Chubby kids know they are chubby.. no one has to tell them. They need encouragement and a positive way in speaking as not to diminish their self esteem. We all have our strengths and weaknesses and we need to help and encourage each other in a positive way.

I am sure you are a kind person, with great self esteem.. many kids crumble because they have not had much positive reinforcement in their lives.. we all have had a different path and can't see what that kid has been through.. he could have been picked on for being fat and it could be a very sensitive topic to him.
We don't know.. You wouldn't post this if you didn't care about it. That says a great deal about you and wonder if you were wrong or not.

I have said some things in my life without thinking .. and had to apologize for them . No one can say they never said something that didn't offend someone.
^^^^^^^ This 1000x
 
Old 04-27-2016, 02:03 PM
 
Location: The Commonwealth of Virginia
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Originally Posted by phxone View Post
This is the kind of offhand comment that could really mess with a CHILD possibly leading to an eating disorder or even suicide. It would be tough as an adult to just shrug off that kind of ahole comment, as a young child it could be disastrous to his psyche. IMO, you are one sick POS. Do you also light stray puppies on fire?
Really? As (presumably) an adult, you would have a hard time "shrugging off" a remark like that? So somebody tells you need to get into shape, and it's Zanax for you? I never in a million years thought that telling a kid to get into shape could lead to his suicide. For the record, I do NOT light stray puppies on fire.

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Originally Posted by convextech View Post
If I had been his mother (and present), I would have told your old ass to go f*ck yourself.
There's the charm. I suspect the pudgy kid has a mom just like you.

As I said, a nation of marshmallows.


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Old 04-27-2016, 02:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Bill790 View Post
So, I'm in the barbershop yesterday, getting a haircut. This chubby kid walks in. He's maybe 13 or 14 years old. He's wearing athletic shorts and a t-shirt, both emblazoned with the local High School Marine Corps JRTOC program.

He gets in the chair across the room, by the cash register. My haircut is done, I walk over to cash register to pay. The kid is 3/4 of the way to high and tight. Big difference. A big pile of hair on the floor. As I pass by I said, "Now you're starting to look like a Marine."

I pay for the haircut, and as I turn to leave, I looked at him and said, "Now you need to get in shape." He looked at me blankly.

I mentioned this to my GF. She was aghast. She said I was being rude. I mentioned it to my boss, and she said I was being "mean." That some "old guy, stranger" wasn't the person to tell that to some kid in a barber shop. She suggested if the kid's mom had been there I could have gotten a punch in the eye.

So, was I really out of line? I'm career military. I see a pudgy kid in a barber shop, who seems interested in Marine Corps JROTC, and I told him he needs to get into shape. I wasn't mean about it. I was matter-of-fact about.

Are we really to the point where our precious little snowflakes shouldn't be "exposed" to a man who tells them they should get into shape?

You think the kids who stormed Normandy would have had an issue with some guy in a barbershop telling them they needed to get into shape?


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How un-politically correct of you. I think it was fine. Enough of the ribbons for 109th place. Everyone's a winner
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