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I hate to break it to you, but we are well beyond arguing over whether its AGW or just GW. It's real. It's here and its yours and my problem! What is so hard to understand about that? As we speak the Marshall Island's are being evacuated. Why? Because they will be underwater in less than a decade. The Navy is unable to argue that people are not drowning in the lower lying areas of a U.S. Territory! They would love to be able to turn their backs on the natives and deny that their concerns are valid.
Long before the temperature rise and the resulting oceanic and atmospheric instability make human life unsupportable, the economic and political instability caused by crop failures, property damage from meteorological events and etc. will precipitate war and/or civil unrest significant enough to threaten National Security. Long before that it will threaten economic growth and the profit schemes of the 1%. You should worry when that starts becoming evident. It will be in your lifetime.
I really cannot fathom the point of a thread like this at this point in time. Really? It's not our fault so we should just continue burning fossil fuels and raising the temperature of the atmosphere further because ... it's happening anyway? Unacceptable. Completely unacceptable. That kind of naive fatalism had a place in the Middle Ages when we thought the world was flat.
I hate to break it to you, but temps were much higher during the time of the Roman Empire, yet CO2 levels were much lower.
The world did not flood.
It is truely amazing when the AGW cult members are presented with information that should cause anyone with half a brain to question the whole hypothesis. Yet, the cult members are conditioned to know one thing- CO2 is the enemy and a killer- and cannot understand anything else.
The AGW cult is the opposite of science, yet they cover themselves in the false veil of "science" to "explain" thier religion.
Why do people try so hard to discredit the greenhouse effect of burning fossil fuels? It shows a peculiar pathology, a combination of ignorance and selfishness that is unique in this country whenever this subject is discussed.
I hate to break it to you, but we are well beyond arguing over whether its AGW or just GW. It's real. It's here and its yours and my problem! What is so hard to understand about that? As we speak the Marshall Island's are being evacuated. Why? Because they will be underwater in less than a decade. The Navy is unable to argue that people are not drowning in the lower lying areas of a U.S. Territory! They would love to be able to turn their backs on the natives and deny that their concerns are valid.
Long before the temperature rise and the resulting oceanic and atmospheric instability make human life unsupportable, the economic and political instability caused by crop failures, property damage from meteorological events and etc. will precipitate war and/or civil unrest significant enough to threaten National Security. Long before that it will threaten economic growth and the profit schemes of the 1%. You should worry when that starts becoming evident. It will be in your lifetime.
I really cannot fathom the point of a thread like this at this point in time. Really? It's not our fault so we should just continue burning fossil fuels and raising the temperature of the atmosphere further because ... it's happening anyway? Unacceptable. Completely unacceptable. That kind of naive fatalism had a place in the Middle Ages when we thought the world was flat.
Mini Ice Ages alternating with warming eras are part of the history of the Earth.
I hate to break it to you, but we are well beyond arguing over whether its AGW or just GW. It's real. It's here and its yours and my problem! What is so hard to understand about that? As we speak the Marshall Island's are being evacuated. Why? Because they will be underwater in less than a decade. The Navy is unable to argue that people are not drowning in the lower lying areas of a U.S. Territory! They would love to be able to turn their backs on the natives and deny that their concerns are valid.
really? how many people have drowned in the Marshall Islands so far?
I hate to break it to you, but we are well beyond arguing over whether its AGW or just GW. It's real. It's here and its yours and my problem! What is so hard to understand about that? As we speak the Marshall Island's are being evacuated. Why? Because they will be underwater in less than a decade. The Navy is unable to argue that people are not drowning in the lower lying areas of a U.S. Territory! They would love to be able to turn their backs on the natives and deny that their concerns are valid.
Long before the temperature rise and the resulting oceanic and atmospheric instability make human life unsupportable, the economic and political instability caused by crop failures, property damage from meteorological events and etc. will precipitate war and/or civil unrest significant enough to threaten National Security. Long before that it will threaten economic growth and the profit schemes of the 1%. You should worry when that starts becoming evident. It will be in your lifetime.
I really cannot fathom the point of a thread like this at this point in time. Really? It's not our fault so we should just continue burning fossil fuels and raising the temperature of the atmosphere further because ... it's happening anyway? Unacceptable. Completely unacceptable. That kind of naive fatalism had a place in the Middle Ages when we thought the world was flat.
Do you know what islands do? They disappear.. I know its hard to understand but islands are not permanent fixtures on a planet... using fake science to try to explain something that has happened for millions of years is pretty dumb... islands have been popping up and disappearing countless times before... there wasn't man-made global warming then either...
I hate to break it to you, but temps were much higher during the time of the Roman Empire, yet CO2 levels were much lower.
The world did not flood.
It is truely amazing when the AGW cult members are presented with information that should cause anyone with half a brain to question the whole hypothesis. Yet, the cult members are conditioned to know one thing- CO2 is the enemy and a killer- and cannot understand anything else.
The AGW cult is the opposite of science, yet they cover themselves in the false veil of "science" to "explain" thier religion.
All one really has to do is look at a Republican convention versus a Democrat Convention that they believe this crap is truly astonishing!
I hate to break it to you, but temps were much higher during the time of the Roman Empire, yet CO2 levels were much lower.
The world did not flood.
It is truely amazing when the AGW cult members are presented with information that should cause anyone with half a brain to question the whole hypothesis. Yet, the cult members are conditioned to know one thing- CO2 is the enemy and a killer- and cannot understand anything else.
The AGW cult is the opposite of science, yet they cover themselves in the false veil of "science" to "explain" thier religion.
I don't mind telling you that you are wrong once again...While temperatures were warmer during Roman times in some areas of the northern hemisphere, globally they were cooler than they are today.
I don't mind telling you that you are wrong once again...While temperatures were warmer during Roman times in some areas of the northern hemisphere, globally they were cooler than they are today.
I don't mind telling you that you are wrong once again...While temperatures were warmer during Roman times in some areas of the northern hemisphere, globally they were cooler than they are today.
That is quite incorrect (yet again). Ice core and tree ring data shows that the GLOBAL TEMPS during the era of the Roman Empire were WARMER.
This is a problem with the AGW cult- when confronted with information they cannot explain (without abandoning the cult), they just make things up. This, of course, is consistent with liberal revisionist history. In fact, one can see (as is shown over the history of earth) very little correlation between temps and atmospheric CO2.
CO2 increases AFTER TEMPS INCREASE and this lag is usually a couple hundred years. Why? Take a bottle of Coke and heat it up. The dissolved CO2 (ocean CO2) will be released (atmospheric CO2) as the bottle is warmed. In fact, the vast majority of CO2 is held in the oceans, not the atmosphere.
To say that CO2 increases temps is like saying that lung cancer causes smoking. While smoking and lung cancer are linked, smoking causes lung cancer, not the other way around. This is the error of the AGW cult (one of many) and a simple refusal to acknowledge multiple inconsistencies with the premise.
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