In the 1930s, a significant majority of Americans strongly supported the New Deal. (illegal, Glenn Beck)

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry

The longest and worst depression we've had. Whatever you do don't address this fact. Continue to deflect and deny. Truth is treason to some. Case closed.
Next.

Why was the architect of the New deal reelected three times?

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by NCN

Your post is hateful and racist and has nothing to do with this thread. When I graduated from high school I had never met a black person so no none of that has anything to do with me. My husband graduated from the same school.

Lol....a southerner that had NEVER met a black person until after high school. The region of the country that's the blackest.

So anyway, you said that southerners have always had class.

So were the examples I provided good examples of southern class?

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry

Worst economic times. Happy now?

That would be true, your reasonign still would be wrong, you are blaming FDR for something that happened almost 4 years before he took office.

FDRs depression didn't end until we got involved in war production. Learn your history before spouting nonsense.

I meant recession and typeed depression by mistake. But again, depression is a feeling. The economy grew, unemployment was down and both employment and wages grew.

You seem to still not understand that a depression is a state of mind and actually has nothing to do with the state of the economy itself.

The longest and worst depression which was prolonged by FDR meddling in the economy.

You believe in the supply side Reaganomics argument of the recession/depression as if you dont see the flaw in that arguement.

In short, you argue that you should "let everything fail and rebuild a new" while not realizing that doing so could cause a recession(and in turn depression) that could last decades or even an entire generation.

You have no proof that it prolonged the depression, you only believe your plans would have made it shorter.

Your statement as well as your entire post, at least in the way you argued it, is completely untrue. But then again using facts isn't your strong suit.

LOL, nice try, but repeating my words doesnt make you right, it just makes you look childish.

[whogo]

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

Why was the architect of the New deal reelected three times?

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill

[Propulser]

Originally Posted by greywar

Actually there are studies and actual data that shows you are wrong. And I could take that argument up with you, but seeing how your entire response was full of insults I suspect you are not amendable to having a actual discussion.

Full of Insults, you say. Quote one.

[Propulser]

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

Why was the architect of the New deal reelected three times?

Same reason Obama was - stupidity on the part of voters. Same reason, California, which prospered when predominantly Republican, has rotted under Democrats, but they keep getting elected. Never underestimate voter stupidity.

[le roi]

Originally Posted by momonkey

Take it up with Henry Morgenthau...


'We're Spending More Than Ever and It Doesn't Work'

A statement taken out of context.

Morgenthau goes on to say that the program was never implemented as it was designed, and that "We have never begun to tax the people. I don't pay what I should. People of my class don't. People who have it should pay. We have not changed."

His argument was that the wealthy should be taxed in order to balance the budget.

Not to mention that (A) this doesn't prove anything about the effectiveness of the new deal, and (B) has nothing to do with Obama.

http://www.burtfolsom.com/wp-content...Morgenthau.pdf

Also , the chart posted on that very article shows that the jobless rate of nonfarm workers had fallen substantially since the passing of the new deal.

[Tyster]

Originally Posted by le roi

This is an Absurd interpretation of politics

This is an absurd interpretation of history

On the contrary... what's really absurd is the current state of the Democratic party... a once reasonable Party now overrun by far Left lunatics. JFK would have been purged from today's Democratic Party for being too conservative.

[GregW]

[SIZE=5]desertdetroiter[/SIZE] - Your sample is a fine set of examples of "Southern Class". The South has worshipped the plantation owners even since the system was imported from Barbados in the 1680's. They have done as much as possible to maintain this class structure despite and attempts to industrialize or educate them.


The latest example is the railing against the Democrats over the coming depression in coal country. The problem is not politics but geography and energy sources. Appalachia is too cut up by mountains to make transportation either fast or inexpensive so no industries, particularly industries looking for educated people, want to locate on the Country Roads.


In addition the energy industry has replaced heating coal with natural gas as the older coal fired power plants are wearing out and the price of coal is increasing due to transportation costs. The customers have stopped buying so the coal industry is collapsing. The Dems had nothing to do with this as most Democrats do not own the oil industry. The Republican industrial owners on Wall Street did this to you. Not us.

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by AllenSJC

The largest bloc of supporters (and arguably, the strongest supporters) of the New Deal were working class white voters, who benefited tremendously from the economic policies of President Franklin Roosevelt - who was easily the most liberal President in American history, especially when judged in the context of his time.

However, by the late 1960s, many working and middle class white voters were defecting to the Republican Party, and by the 1980s, many more were voting for conservative Republicans like Ronald Reagan and his Congressional allies. Today, a considerable majority of white voters prefer Republicans; President Obama received only 39% of the white vote in 2012, despite winning reelection.

Nowhere could this transformation be seen more clearly than in the South, which since the 1960s, has gone from being the most Democratic region in the country to the most Republican one. What changed? Why are so many white voters - particularly Southern whites - no longer voting for liberal Democrats?

The " Southern Strategy" was devised to appeal to Southern voters who opposed integration. The strategy flipped the political majorities in many stated from blue to red over the past 40-50 years.

Political strategists have been saying for years that no presidential nominee could win a popular election unless they win the Hispanic vote. Bush 2 was the last Republican to do so and did so by promising immigration reform/ amnesty. He did try and Congress declined.