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As has been pointed out to you, crime rates, including murder rates are based upon murders committed in comparison to 100,000 citizens. Due to that, it is ridiculous to say that just because a city has a higher amount of citizens that it is more dangerous than another.
Detroit is a much more dangerous city than Chicago on all fronts, as are many other cities like St. Louis, Atlanta, etc., that have been mentioned in the thread. All of them (even Detroit) have middle/upper class neighborhoods with lower crime rates in their municipality.
The bold part of your assertion is pretty funny because the southside of Chicago, like you mentioned, it the MAJORITY of the city land-wise. So based upon that it would make sense if everything you mentioned above is wide spread for its crime rates to be higher than they are. They are not because Chicago is not overly crime ridden like all of you believe. I know you don't want to believe they have low crime rates but they do in comparison to other cities. FWIW, they actually did used to be a "top 10 dangerous city" back in the 70s and 80s and 90s. Things have turned around for Chicago since that time and they no longer are a top 10 most dangerous city statistically. It is unfortunate that many of you just don't want to admit this.
I am going to dumb this down a bit so that you may be able to comprehend it.
Chicago is roughly 4 times the size of Detroit in terms of population in city limits to city limits. Let's ignore suburbs...both have rough and nice suburbs....Chicago has 2 suburbs in the top 30 murder rates in the US and Detroit zero...let's just focus on City limits.
Population Size Comparison:
Chicago XXXX
Detroit X
Detroit has few middle and upper class areas (low crime) WITHIN CITY LIMITS
Chicago has massive areas of middle and upper class areas areas (low crime) WITHIN CITY LIMITS
From Chicago, you can carve out a population much BIGGER than the population of Detroit with a HIGHER murder rate.
To ignore this reality is to either be playing dumb for politics or playing dumb due to low IQ.
Chicago's blight and high crime area is as LARGE SCALE as anywhere in the country. "Chicago blight neighborhoods" in terms of population and area has more than all of Detroit.
You don't want people to post Chicago's murder stats, which are almost always minority on minority crimes, Black on Black and Hispanic on Hispanic being the most prevalent, by far.
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I guess you missed the point. Gun availability isn't the cause of high murder rates. So stop trying to blame Chicago's high murder rates on the surrounding states.
Actually the point that you failed to make, was that Chicago's gun violence was caused by Chicago itself, you sought to back that up by your belief that no city in Indiana had the same crime rates, when in fact, it seems the largest city in that state has a higher crime rate than Chicago.
Actually the point that you failed to make, was that Chicago's gun violence was caused by Chicago itself, you sought to back that up by your belief that no city in Indiana had the same crime rates, when in fact, it seems the largest city in that state has a higher crime rate than Chicago.
Actually the point that you failed to make, was that Chicago's gun violence was caused by Chicago itself, you sought to back that up by your belief that no city in Indiana had the same crime rates, when in fact, it seems the largest city in that state has a higher crime rate than Chicago.
The point of this entire thread is to blame Chicago's violence on anything but guns, there are many reasons for gun violence, gangs, low income, segregation but according to threads like this it can't be guns because they have strict laws.
I'm going with the Chicago PD on this, illegal guns fron outside the city is a major contributor but by no means the only reason.
I believe most come from guns legally bought in states with looser laws.
HOWEVER, that's according to CPD reports which are skewed since the guns they haven't recovered aren't counted.
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