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Old 07-07-2016, 12:13 PM
 
Location: east coast
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BHis statements are in contradiction to what everyone with a clearance is instructed about intent/no intent of the release of classified information. So, there is a problem, it seems either with the law or with the DOJ's policy on how to prosecute these cases.
And that is the jist of it all.

I am by all means now, after watching this entire hearing, saying that Hillary should be prosecuted. But just as Comey stated, he is all about transparency and is well aware of the confusion.

I will say that there was a bit of generosity, not necessarily bias, placed on his decision.

Comey was mighty generous.
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Florida
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HE DIDN'T SAY THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do 85% of the people posting have comprehension problems?

He said they could not unequivocally prove she knew she had intent to commit a crime. BIG DIFFERENCE. If they cannot find adequate evidence, you cannot recommend to prosecute.


After watching the hearing and reading these posts, the only thing I know for sure is:

Comey is above board.
Most of these grandstanding blowhard Senators shouldn't be reelected.
We're screwed as a nation, given the posts in this thread.
I did not intend to go over the speed limit, but guess what , I get a ticket ...

Hillary was briefed about security ... she instead decided to put her cyber communications on a illegal server in her basement.. she intended to break the law ..she did not follow the protocol of a secure server. She thought she is above the law.. plus she had her lawyers scrub many communications off her server.. many they could not find.. if this isn't shady , and illegal , what is?
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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Hillary made the decision to not use a secure, federal email system, even though presidential orders demanded all employees use it. She cretaed a home server, used multiple servers, that was all based upon her intent. Every single email she either sent or received went thru an unsecure server, from simple yoga class discussions, to discussions and doucuments up to TOP SECRET S.A.P., and none of these were under Hilary's control.

You cannot get any more incompetent and grossly negligent in mishandling classified material than that.

She further made the purposeful intent to destroy 30,000 emails, specifically to prevent the FBI from having poession of them. The FBI was able to recover several thousand emails of the 30,000 that she destroyed, and these were work related, some were secret and top secret. That too was grossly negligent.

Comey has just tried to make the case that he would not prosecute anyone for gross negligence, even though the law makes that a felony offense..
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Of course it was rigged. They didn't even put her under oath when she testified to the FBI. There is ONLY one reason not to do that. So NO charges can be brought for lying to them. They knew she was lying, they knew she was going to lie to them so they didn't put her under oath to protect her.
UGH.....is THAT legal?
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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No, just lying to the FBI is a crime, under oath or not.
Ok so it is just Congress that they have to be under oath?? She definitely lied to the FBI, the simple fact that she told them that she turned over ALL work related emails when the FBI found out she didn't is a lie. Either way it's corruption at it's finest.
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:17 PM
 
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UGH.....is THAT legal?
I'm not sure why they did that, but the poster that corrected me is correct, you don't even have to be under oath to get in trouble for lying to the FBI, Congress may be different, I'm not sure.
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:19 PM
 
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Hillary made the decision to not use a secure, federal email system, even though presidential orders demanded all employees use it. She cretaed a home server, used multiple servers, that was all based upon her intent. Every single email she either sent or received went thru an unsecure server, from simple yoga class discussions, to discussions and doucuments up to TOP SECRET S.A.P., and none of these were under Hilary's control.

You cannot get any more incompetent and grossly negligent in mishandling classified material than that.

She further made the purposeful intent to destroy 30,000 emails, specifically to prevent the FBI from having poession of them. The FBI was able to recover several thousand emails of the 30,000 that she destroyed, and these were work related, some were secret and top secret. That too was grossly negligent.

Comey has just tried to make the case that he would not prosecute anyone for gross negligence, even though the law makes that a felony offense..
Comey would absolutely prosecute anyone else and already has.
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Florida
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And that is the jist of it all.

I am by all means now, after watching this entire hearing, saying that Hillary should be prosecuted. But just as Comey stated, he is all about transparency and is well aware of the confusion.

I will say that there was a bit of generosity, not necessarily bias, placed on his decision.

Comey was mighty generous.
When asked the same question about prosecution he said the regular joe would be prosecuted.. putting Hillary's name on it , no prosecution and Comey insists there is no one above the law.

He said the standard moves when prosecuting Hillary but his words say different. He said he does not hold a different standard.. this just doesn't add up.
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Ok so it is just Congress that they have to be under oath?? She definitely lied to the FBI, the simple fact that she told them that she turned over ALL work related emails when the FBI found out she didn't is a lie. Either way it's corruption at it's finest.
Nope, sounds like she came clean when she talked to the FBI but did lie to Congress. Due to the narrow scope of the investigation, the FBI didn't even investigate the perjury. Said that needed to be asked of the FBI by the committee - which they said would be done. So, Hilary will be investigated for perjury next it seems.
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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When asked the same question about prosecution he said the regular joe would be prosecuted.. putting Hillary's name on it , no prosecution and Comey insists there is no one above the law.

He said the standard moves when prosecuting Hillary but his words say different. He said he does not hold a different standard.. this just doesn't add up.
None of it does. He also said he was not qualified to say if she lied to Congress or the public when he basically said just that the other day.
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