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Old 07-12-2016, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The cop was not in Texas, or Idaho... and he has been fired. Maybe you cats can take it up with his former superiors. Talk sense into them. LOL.
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Old 07-12-2016, 10:52 PM
 
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Not necessarily true. You can shoot someone breaking into your house however if you scare them and they are running away, you cannot shoot them in the back. He was fired...great however I do think he needs to be charged with something. This is the basis for what the protests are about. Someone is dead because of a Police officer's gross negligence. Simply being fired is not an appropriate level of punishment.
It's a start but he needs to be charged.
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Old 07-12-2016, 10:58 PM
 
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The crime that wasn't?!...

There is question whether there was even a crime being committed - other than the murder.

APD names officer fired after shooting burglary suspect | 11alive.com
He just shot without properly ID-ing the guy. This is why there are policies and procedures in place to keep things like this from happening.
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Old 07-12-2016, 11:03 PM
 
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It's a start. To when police are held accountable. There a procedures and policies in place and he didn't follow them. Now I agree he needs to be charged with something. These cops are trigger happy
The problem with situations like this is you have very charged situation with the adrenaline flowing and the cop needs to make split second decisions. I'm not saying the cop was right or wrong but put yourself in their shoes. They can be right 99.9% of the time in their career but when they make one mistake they or someone else ends up dead. Making mistakes is two way street.
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:00 AM
 
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In Texas if you have reasonable belief your property or your neighbors property will not be returned you can shoot. That's the extreme end of it. This is from Texas, Mr. Horn was never prosecuted.
Very true in Texas. Last year, a man shot and killed a deputy that was part of team of officers who performed a no knock raid at his home because a confidential informant said he was growing massive amounts of cannabis and had illegal guns at his home.

Rightly, he was never charged in the officer's death as his guns were legal and less than one ounce of cannabis found.


Texas Pot Grower Who Killed Deputy Sheriff in Home Raid Not Indicted
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:12 AM
 
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The problem with situations like this is you have very charged situation with the adrenaline flowing and the cop needs to make split second decisions. I'm not saying the cop was right or wrong but put yourself in their shoes. They can be right 99.9% of the time in their career but when they make one mistake they or someone else ends up dead. Making mistakes is two way street.
and when the suspect makes a mistake, they get charged. Let's make it a real 2 way street
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:16 AM
 
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In NY, you can not shoot someone for committing a property crime.
We have some of the strictest gun laws in the country in NY though...
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:50 AM
 
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See this is a start Kudos to ATL now let's see if he will be charged.
He should be!!!!!


Watch him try to flee!!!!
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:53 AM
 
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I think we're going to soon see cops not work so hard any more.
Police shooting and killing people, is that even considered "working hard?" Granted, it is excessive force, but I wouldn't call that working, more like murdering people because they have a badge.
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Old 07-13-2016, 01:15 AM
 
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You cannot shoot someone for breaking into your car even if you see it on-going. Inside your home is a completely different story.. blast away. Now, if some perp is breaking into your car and attempts to drive away .. you say halt and jump out in front but he continues.... yeah blast him. Even if you give chase after someone with a gun who just robbed or broken into your car if you tell him to halt and the minute he turns around to face you (while being armed) blast away too.


This cop didn't understand the parameters of deadly force justification, but I don't feel sorry for the perp either.
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