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Old 07-26-2016, 07:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Sounds like gun owners need to start to pony up fees to pay for more enforcement officers and better mental health coverage.
I like the "vote in a Rupub" idea much better
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Old 07-26-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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You are lying because you said and I quote:





Is the superintendent of the city police not a representative of the municipal government? He gave the order!


Now years later, they were still not repenting.

"In the years that followed, New Orleans officials were unrepentant. In a 2006 interview with local radio station WWL, New Orleans Superintendent Warren Riley said, “During a circumstance like that, we cannot allow people to walk the street carrying guns…as law enforcement officers we will confiscate the weapon if a person is walking down the street and they may be arrested.”
He should have been arrested.
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:06 AM
 
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That would mean an unconstitutional gun registry....
Illegal under state law here.
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:29 AM
 
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You are lying because you said and I quote:





Is the superintendent of the city police not a representative of the municipal government? He gave the order!


Now years later, they were still not repenting.

"In the years that followed, New Orleans officials were unrepentant. In a 2006 interview with local radio station WWL, New Orleans Superintendent Warren Riley said, “During a circumstance like that, we cannot allow people to walk the street carrying guns…as law enforcement officers we will confiscate the weapon if a person is walking down the street and they may be arrested.”
Fine, a superintendent gave the order illegally with no one above him telling him to do that. He broke the law and abused his power. Yet that doesn't change the fact that you can still go put and buy and own a gun in New Orleans today, after all these years when a superintendent broke the law.

You clearly are missing my point, so I am just gonna agree with you.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:01 AM
 
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Fine, a superintendent gave the order illegally with no one above him telling him to do that. He broke the law and abused his power. Yet that doesn't change the fact that you can still go put and buy and own a gun in New Orleans today, after all these years when a superintendent broke the law.

You clearly are missing my point, so I am just gonna agree with you.
Why was he not arrested, he clearly violated the law?
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:05 AM
 
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Why was he not arrested, he clearly violated the law?
I don't know Katrina was over 11 years ago, I don't remember what came about from this. Of course we have officers illegally murdering unarmed people and not being arrested, so maybe the accountability of our officers is something we should work on.
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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Why was he not arrested, he clearly violated the law?
Because he didn't have the intent to break the law, duh!
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:18 AM
 
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Fine, a superintendent gave the order illegally with no one above him telling him to do that. He broke the law and abused his power. Yet that doesn't change the fact that you can still go put and buy and own a gun in New Orleans today, after all these years when a superintendent broke the law.

You clearly are missing my point, so I am just gonna agree with you.
Who else was supposed to tell him?

Note in the 2006 interview, it was a different superintendent and he admitted that he's going to do the same thing again.

The fact this actually happened shows us how dangerous the government can be. Had it not been for NRA, those people would not even get their properties back, nor would many states put in specific laws preventing this from happening.
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:34 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The problem is that a BGC in and of itself is not really a problem, its that the Dems use it as back door gun control. They want to close the so called Charleston loop hole. That is that if the BGC comes back as delayed then they have 3 days to give a ruling or it default goes through. The problem is that if you make it indefinite than the BGC and get pigeon holed indefinitely. If you give the Fed that kind of power they will abuse it. Also the denying of due process of someone put on the no fly list. If they are not allowed to fly why are they walking around free? There have been cases such as Ted Kennedy who was on these lists. If you give the fed that kind of power it will be abused and its another chipping away of the constitution. Due process is a founding principal. To just put someone on a list and deny them rights is not constitutional.
It's the same with the ridiculous "ammo BCG". We already have to deal with this with firearms. What they are trying to do is nail down previously owned weapons based on data from the ammo. They can suck eggs, we'll all just reload and buy everything with cash in the next six months here in CA.
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:46 AM
 
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Who else was supposed to tell him?

Note in the 2006 interview, it was a different superintendent and he admitted that he's going to do the same thing again.

The fact this actually happened shows us how dangerous the government can be. Had it not been for NRA, those people would not even get their properties back, nor would many states put in specific laws preventing this from happening.
You do realize there are people above that person at the state and federal level, right?

Can you or can you not buy and own guns in New Orleans today?

Yes, I fully agree with you, we need to increase accountability with our police forces, they should be held at a higher standard and shouldn't be able to do things like illegally take guns from people and murder innocent people. I think this is something we both can agree on.
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