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That has already been addressed, it was local police acting with no authority to confiscate guns. It is no different than a local police officer blatantly murdering a person. Some cops are bad and abuse their powers, but no government agency ordered guns to be confiscated after Katrina.
I know, I know, so who screens these people your neighbors.
The FBI, if they submit to the NICS background check. But that's the point - only the law-abiding are affected. The criminals won't be affected. They won't submit to a background check. It's already illegal for the buyers in your example to possess firearms. It's already illegal for anyone to sell them one. So they'll steal one or buy illegally or from the black market. If they have no qualms about murdering someone they sure as hell won't have a problem stealing a gun, etc. No new laws will affect them. The laws already on the books aren't being enforced like they should be.
That has already been addressed, it was local police acting with no authority to confiscate guns. It is no different than a local police officer blatantly murdering a person. Some cops are bad and abuse their powers, but no government agency ordered guns to be confiscated after Katrina.
If they are local police, they have authority. Try refusing a request from a local police officer and see what that gets you.
And did I miss something, aren't local police pd's considered govt. agencies?
If they are local police, they have authority. Try refusing a request from a local police officer and see what that gets you.
And did I miss something, aren't local police pd's considered govt. agencies?
So either you missed my point or you are pretending to not understand what I said, so you simply twist my words to what I didn't say.
A local officer doing something he shouldn't isn't the same as a local officer doing something he is ordered to do from a state or federal government.
No one ordered guns to be confiscated after Katrina, that was nothing more than some officers acting poorly and doing something they were not suppose to do.
So either you missed my point or you are pretending to not understand what I said, so you simply twist my words to what I didn't say.
A local officer doing something he shouldn't isn't the same as a local officer doing something he is ordered to do from a state or federal government.
No one ordered guns to be confiscated after Katrina, that was nothing more than some officers acting poorly and doing something they were not suppose to do.
haha no.
a govt agent giving you an order is an edict and it matters little if it came from the individual officers or higher up the food chain. And you have no proof it didn't.
Background checks are unconstitutional. The whole point of the 2nd amendment was so the public was better armed than government, for a reason. There is no way the founders wanted an eventually overbearing government, to know who had what weapon.
Funny how the 2nd Amendment wasn't challenged by government, until the end of the Civil War.... Now, why could that be? LOL! People are idiots, to ever let government be better armed than the people, if they ever wanted to maintain liberty for all..........
People secure liberty, not government set on controlling those that consent to be controlled.
That is what we all want. The problem is new crazies and home grown terrorists pop up all the time. Charles Whitman was not on anyone's radar when he went nuts. Micah Johnson (the Dallas sniper) had no criminal record. Adam Lanzla (Sandy Hook killer) was a kid, a bit odd but not odd enough to be labeled insane.
We don't have a machine that can look into the mind of someone and say he/she is going to go nuts and start shooting people. The alternative most countries take is severely restrict access to guns which limits the carnage, but does not stop it.
We pay a high price in this country for the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms.
What high price are you talking about?
Alcohol kills almost 90,000 Americans each year not including murders, suicides and other violence it causes, and drinking alcohol has absolutely no use. With guns, at least we can argue there's self-defense against criminals and against a tyrannical government.
Somehow we need the 21st Amendment but not the 2nd?
So either you missed my point or you are pretending to not understand what I said, so you simply twist my words to what I didn't say.
A local officer doing something he shouldn't isn't the same as a local officer doing something he is ordered to do from a state or federal government.
No one ordered guns to be confiscated after Katrina, that was nothing more than some officers acting poorly and doing something they were not suppose to do.
Once again, why can't people be honest? I am so tired of hearing lies after lies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critic...ilian_firearms
"Controversy arose over a September 8 city-wide order by New Orleans Police Superintendent Eddie Compass to local police, U.S. Army National Guard soldiers, and Deputy U.S. Marshals to confiscate all civilian-held firearms. .... Seizures were carried out without warrant, and in some cases with excessive force"
Once again, why can't people be honest? I am so tired of hearing lies after lies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critic...ilian_firearms
"Controversy arose over a September 8 city-wide order by New Orleans Police Superintendent Eddie Compass to local police, U.S. Army National Guard soldiers, and Deputy U.S. Marshals to confiscate all civilian-held firearms. .... Seizures were carried out without warrant, and in some cases with excessive force"
And some of those people never recovered their illegally seized property.
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