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Old 08-02-2016, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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If she's throwing voters of her own party with Bernie, why wouldn't she rig the voting system for her in the general election? This is fact - even for Bernie supporters ( rest their souls...)
Why limit speculation about rigging to her/DNC?

If Trump wins ( which I think he will) why assume he will win fair and square?
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Do I have personal experience? No. I am one of the luckiest people on the planet, I was born a (white) American citizen.

I read a lot though. There are many, many accounts, historic and contemporary, either about or written by people suffering real oppression, including black Americans.

I can tell the difference between my life and Ivan Denisovich's. Or Harriet Tubman's. Or even Medgar Evers'.


May I add to that the luck of being born when I was born as opposed to an earlier time when I may not have been allowed to inherit, own property, vote or be paid for my work, let alone equal pay and opportunity.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:34 AM
 
Location: *
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What happened recently had little to nothing to do with Capitalism. In Capitalism you do not bail out failed businesses.
Frame the recent global financial/economic imbroglio as a cumalitive result of the 'free market fundamentalism' of the 2 main US political party's' agenda, the 'Washington Consensus':

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...The Washington Consensus is a set of 10 economic policy prescriptions considered to constitute the "standard" reform package promoted for crisis-wracked developing countries by Washington, D.C.–based institutions such as the International Monetary Fund (IMF), World Bank, and the US Treasury Department. ...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Consensus

The USA, although not a developing country, was included in those countries wracked by the financial crisis.

Supremacy of the free market (both parties), cutting social services as solution, deregulation (the final demise of glass-stealgall), privatizing (for example, profit prisons), & elimination of the concept of "Community" or the "Common Good" while bolstering the concept of "rugged individualism".
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Those who fantasize about overthrowing a government will contain a percentage of folk intent on corruption, too.
Even if they have no intent to be corrupt power corrupts.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Fat people don't revolt.
Had not considered that.

Given 75% of adults are overweight- obese and getting fatter.......
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Orlando, Dallas and baton Rouge are the first signs that something is fundamentally in America is. Wrong. If America keeps failing it's people, letting people slip through the cracks. These very same people will cause harm to others. Government better take notice for such events and more further massacres to take place.
You must be very young or not into history.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Won't Get Fooled Again

The Who

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they are flown in the next war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again, no, no

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

Yeaah!

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again, no no

Yeaaah!
Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

Songwriters: PETER TOWNSHEND
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:46 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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At what point will THE PEOPLE rise up?

It will not take a whole lot to ignite a powder keg.
150 million people are locked & loaded.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:48 AM
 
Location: *
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Frederick Douglass has a couple things to say here...

"The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those they oppose."

"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the amount of injustice and wrong that will be imposed on them."
While I agree with Mr. Douglass' vision for the USA, acknowledgement of the fact that he met with President Lincoln several times re: the implementation was a key in the success of continuing to form a more perfect union.

Vision without implementation is hallucination. ... Action without vision is a nightmare. ... sometimes attributed to Bertrand Russell & Benjamin Franklin on the Internet.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Yes, many of us won't adapt to the current system where all wealth rises to the top few.
Dropped husband off at the train this morning. Passed Starbucks. The lot was full. Cars waiting to enter the drive- through, clogged the road.

Went out to dinner last night. The wait was 30 minutes.

People camp out in front of the Apple Store in anticipation of the latest release.

Seems to me at least half the people under 35 have tats.

People buy lottery tickets by the 100.

Casinos tend to do well unless there's too much competition.

Alcohol sales are stable.

Marijuana sales brisk and profits are high in those places where recreational use is legal.

Flights are overbooked and hotels and resorts are sold out, in season.

Seems to me a heck of a lot of people have discretionary income to spend on endless stuff they don't need instead of building their own wealth.
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