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Liberals always, after any reported deaths involving firearms, are quick to shout for banning of guns, ammunition, and restrict the rights of those who have not committed any crime.
The analogy would be advocating the banning of all automobiles, as drunk drivers kill 27 people per day. Forget the fact that the vast majority of drivers do not kill anyone- we must ban all automobiles to prevent drunk drivers from killing people.
they go to jail-- but they also have safety measures- can go but so fast- seat belts- brakes etc etc
Really? You can't see that the differences far outweigh the commonalities? Consider if someone claimed a comparable nature for both a raven and a writing desk.
Nope. You'll actually have to articulate your point. I won't do it for you.
"The 2nd Amendment as written is unlimited" -- not true.
This is a difficult but necessary concept for all Americans to understand. The Constitution as originally written presented many seemingly absolute concepts, but the Constitution has always been considered a living document; that is, it has changed - for the better - over time. In fact, it is designed to be changed. And it is up to the Supreme Court to interpret the words and their meanings, and such interpretations have also changed as the times have changed and the people sitting on the Supreme Court have changed.
It wasn't until 2008, in the District of Columbia v. Heller decision, that the Supreme Court first clearly established that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for lawful purposes such as self-defense within the home.
Here is the exact text from the Heller decision that spells out the limitations of the Second Amendment:
Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56.
The constitution lives(changed) by amendment. not legislation.
What is limiting in the term Arms? What is limiting in the term people? What is limited in the Right of the people? What is limited to keep or bear a weapon... any weapon?
Shall not be infringed... Read that slowly, so it may one day sink in deep enough to be retained.
Liberty is unlimited choice.
The founders were not about to restrict the liberties of the people. That is why they clearly wrote "ARMS" to mean unlimited. They wrote, "shall not be infringed" so the government would never be able to limit the choices or completely take them away. The people were to be armed better than the government.
They had the quill in hand and ink on the table. It would have been very easy to get specific. Why didn't they?
Why not, "the right of the PEOPLE to keep a musket, powder & ball" ??????
Why not, " to keep but never bear, what government allows"
Why not, "this right can be altered upon the governments demand"
Why did they use "PEOPLE" and not Citizen?
Why didn't they say people 21 years or older?
Why didn't they say non-felons?
They had the quill and ink, right there, with space to spare.
They can ban all weapons except a single shot bb rifle and we would still have the choice, right? The freedom to choose for ourselves from 2 choices - Have the single shot bb gun, or don't have the single shot bb gun, you still have a choice, government took nothing.
You see, any restriction, or attempted restriction, meant certain death to those wanting to enslave and oppress us.
Meaning those that even bring it up, are suppose to die on the spot, by that very right, that shall never be infringed.
There's no guessing involved in what people like you really want.
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it." - Diane Feinstein (D)
Saving lives is obviously not a goal for anti gun nuts. They NEVER propose any solution that might actually reduce crime or save lives, just more restrictions on people who aren't committing crime.
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa
Stupid analogy but nonetheless, consider: you have to be licensed and pass a test to use one. Let's do the same for guns, OK?
You do NOT need to be licensed or pass any test to buy, own or operate a vehicle of any kind on private property. I'm sure you won't support the same for guns.
"It is a false equivocation because one is literally designed to kill,"
MANY ant-gunners cannot comprehend that ALL guns are NOT "literally designed to kill,"
MANY guns are made SPECIFICALLY for sport shooting.
Can they be used to "kill" ? Probaly but, the again almost ANYTHING can be used to "kill".
My gun cooked me dinner last night.
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