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Old 08-15-2016, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Truth is, some people already live in places where the streets never get fixed and squalor abounds. This is often all that some people know.
Some people are drug up they are not brought up.. it rests with the parents how to take care of their property and stop using the world as their garbage can.. I have seen streets in Newark where litter made the streets look like a garbage dump.. it was bad...black women have it very hard ... to bring up men with no man around is very challenging. They have it twice as hard if not more. Some kid are just rebellious and want no boundaries.. the culture is bad today for blacks.. there is an air of rebellion like never before in the music they listen to. They know not what they do to these children to grow up rebellious and peer pressure is extreme .

In NJ I had people who were white, pull in my nice clean paved driveway , and empty their garbage out of their car.. cups, trash, and such.. and I have seen them throw cans out and bottles in a nice neighborhood.. young kids I might add. Of course we pick it up to keep our town clean.

 
Old 08-15-2016, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Florida
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And the renters will go elsewhere. The individuals who behaved like hood rats will move on to behave as such elsewhere. They will just go to another part of Milwaukee.
That is true too. ..or they will not pay the rent till they are kicked out and go somewhere else. it takes @ 6 months to legally evict a tenant.. meanwhile they have extra cash and can move on ..
 
Old 08-15-2016, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Hyde Park, Los Angeles
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I was talking to someone who thought there should be a deterrent for the looting and destruction that happens when the black community thinks that injustice should be met with burning and looting stores and businesses. He thought of a tax that should be placed to cover the cost and a penalty for such behavior on the black community.

Maybe there would be better parenting if the community had to pay for what they have allowed . This should be considered. They must understand that there is a down side to this kind of bad behavior.
What do you think of a black looting and destruction tax on the community? What other deterrent do you think would change this kind of unacceptable behavior?
Are you daft, man?!

If you plan to tax a whole group of people because of a few knucklehead looters, then good luck with that because we're not paying for someone else's ineptitude. Black people have already done that throughout history.
 
Old 08-15-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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Some people are drug up they are not brought up.. it rests with the parents how to take care of their property and stop using the world as their garbage can.. I have seen streets in Newark where litter made the streets look like a garbage dump.. it was bad...black women have it very hard ... to bring up men with no man around is very challenging. They have it twice as hard if not more. Some kid are just rebellious and want no boundaries.. the culture is bad today for blacks.. there is an air of rebellion like never before in the music they listen to. They know not what they do to these children to grow up rebellious and peer pressure is extreme .

In NJ I had people who were white, pull in my nice clean paved driveway , and empty their garbage out of their car.. cups, trash, and such.. and I have seen them throw cans out and bottles in a nice neighborhood.. young kids I might add. Of course we pick it up to keep our town clean.
If the kids aren't raised right, there will be problems. I can agree with that. The Black people who are raising their kids right will often leave places like North Milwaukee. Taking ownership and pride in your neighborhood is another matter as well.

You can't put all of the blame on Black men. I get tired of that. The women play a role too. Alot of people won't admit that alot of kids are born from one night stands and just generally reckless sexual habits. A woman can make a man wear a condom. She has many options for birth control, such as the pill, a DP shot, morning after pill, and if she can't take care of the kid, she can give it up for adoption. A woman can also say "no, I won't have sex". In fact, this would stop alot of problems. If you are not in a position to raise a child, don't have sex. Do not date a man who cannot take care of himself. This is one of the biggest issues. It isn't only the men. Alot of women are picking men who are pretty much crappy. Meanwhile, alot of good, solid, hardworking Black men get turned away. Many are denigrated for "being lame" or "he act White". Basically, no swag, no girl. Men who are hood rats seem to have an easier time getting the women compared to the young Black men who are interested in studying.

And music you're speaking of, alot of non-Blacks buy this music. I would say this culture could die out if sales in that music dropped 60%.
 
Old 08-15-2016, 01:21 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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It does matter because I'm betting that the looters aren't property owners. You don't own a property, you pay no property taxes. The only ones who will get hurt are the persons who are landlords in those areas. It won't hurt the persons who pay rent. They can just rent somewhere else and the cycle continues.
Where are they going to eat when the grocery stores are gone? (etc other business too) And when the rental business goes belly up, that will kick everyone out onto the streets.

One thing I didn't think about, is where the federal government may swoop in and give businesses money to stay and try to make a go of it, so as to revitalize the town. But then, I'm sure that money runs out, too ... so you're right, the cycle continues.

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I didn't say the business owners get a tax increase. read again.. they leave the town..their business no longer contributes to the tax base.. the give nothing.. if a complete line of stores leave for being burnt down, the taxes they paid when having a business was collected by the town.. when they leave , the town loses those taxes.. the town grows poor. They can't fix the streets, they can't do much when their businesses are gone..and the taxes those businesses paid are gone.
The businesses that stay in the community (taxing black communities for riots) their taxes increase regardless, they will eventually leave .... You're right, streets don't get fixed; businesses are gone.

If a community puts into play an increase in taxation, because it is a) a black community b) prone to riots, how long before a case is made (a federal case) before the Supreme Court that a city/state is pursuing an unjust tax increase?

The Supreme Court may decide that all communities city/state regardless of their race be entitled to the same rate in increase of taxes as all communities may be prone to violent outburst and/or riots.

Whatever solution is put into play, it has to meet the equal criteria for all citizens in the U.S. because someone is going to try and make a federal case out it. People always do.
 
Old 08-15-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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I was talking to someone who thought there should be a deterrent for the looting and destruction that happens when the black community thinks that injustice should be met with burning and looting stores and businesses. He thought of a tax that should be placed to cover the cost and a penalty for such behavior on the black community.

Maybe there would be better parenting if the community had to pay for what they have allowed . This should be considered. They must understand that there is a down side to this kind of bad behavior.
What do you think of a black looting and destruction tax on the community? What other deterrent do you think would change this kind of unacceptable behavior?

They is just wildin'. Are you some kind of racialist or something?

Apparently, "letting off a little steam" in the black community is usually associated with burning serveral buildings and looting. It is a time honored tradition and we should be honored that the black community is sharing this tradition with us.
 
Old 08-15-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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Where are they going to eat when the grocery stores are gone? (etc other business too) And when the rental business goes belly up, that will kick everyone out onto the streets.
We already have examples like this. Gary and Detroit. If the store goes, some people will have to go elsewhere. Alot of people just go to other places. Consequences like this have not prevented lawlessness.
 
Old 08-15-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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They is just wildin'. Are you some kind of racialist or something?

Apparently, "letting off a little steam" in the black community is usually associated with burning serveral buildings and looting. It is a time honored tradition and we should be honored that the black community is sharing this tradition with us.
"Black community"? What we are seeing is violence from underclass types. This is underclass behavior. Rest of the Black population has nothing to do with this. How hard is that to comprehend?
 
Old 08-15-2016, 02:10 PM
 
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I found out some more information. According to a local, Sherman Park is home to a Black middle class living in Milwaukee. The looters involved likely aren't from Sherman Park. If this is the case, then this will really hurt Black middle class residents in the neighborhood more than anyone else. They will likely leave. Even when there are Black people taking pride in where they live, the underclass rats are not far away.
 
Old 08-15-2016, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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And who caused the welfare ghettos? the people who ship their jobs away , that is who... the democrats have for years supported Nafta, with Bill Clinton pushing it through.. So get to the root.. it is globalism that is destroying the black rise into wealth and the welfare system put in place.. black people exist.. they don't live.
Talk about revisionist history. NAFTA was a Republican initiative. George H W Bush pushed for and negotiated the treaty (and even signed it ceremonially) He even tried (and failed) to fast-track the matter through so he could get it signed into law before his term was potentially over. The Republican led Congress eventually passed it, and Bill Clinton signed it as a compromise to get pro-labor and pro-environmental legislation passed at the same time. You know, compromise? And now Republicans don't want to own it? Want to act like it wasn't their initiative? What a surprise!
Ironically, as conservatives ignore the GOP's role in NAFTA, and try to crucify Clinton for making this deal with Republicans, they criticize Obama for his perceived unwillingness to reach across the aisle and compromise with them. Hilarious.

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