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I find the LWNJ (or at least hunting-ignorant people) to have reactions that are beyond entertaining. They complain that a gun gives a wild animal no chance and "isn't sporting". This guy hunts a freekin' bear with a sharp stick and the same nutjobs still are in a tizzy.
Yeah those of us who've actually spent years hunting large game in our youth would only have loved to know to sit behind a bait pile or garbage dump to get that reward of the kill without having to actually perform any of the traditional practices of "hunting".
Gee, if we'd only known that animals attracted using bait or a nearby garbage pile would probably ignore your presence and allow a human to get near it so we could hit it with a sledge hammer then call it hunting......oh wait, we did know that and would have been scorned out of the woods for the rest of our lives by real hunters for engaging in such a practive but this clown has no freak'n idea of what REAL hunting entails to allow bragging rights after a clean kill.
Today's typical hunters hop into a helicopter to run game to death so they'll just stand there on wobbly legs panting while they then shoot them from a hundred years away using a scope. Big frigg'n deal.
Anybody calling this "hunting" is missing the point entirely.
I'm not opposed to hunting when there is actual hunting going on which is not the case in this video. Sitting around the campground garbage bin to kill an apex predator is pathetic. This was essentially a canned hunt...which is pretty ****ing unethical and lazy.
You nailed it friend! This azzclown should be scorned by real hunters as nothing more than an opportunistic glory boy.
Any one of the provincial parks in Canada had lodges, campgrounds, and in the old days logging camps that would typically have a garbage heap and you could sit for hours watching bears come in to root through that pile. Hell, you could hit one with a thrown rock if you desired to.
No self respecting hunter calling himself that would resort to baiting large game. "Calling" of Elk and Moose was scorned by the old time sport hunters until that became an artform of it's own in the late 50's ad early sixties.
Those hunting for food were allowed some leeway in the past but sport hunters required the full stalk' to occur before awarding any bragging rights to a hunter. If you'd shortcut the process by hiding behind a trash heap you'd have been laughed out of the bush for the rest of your life and no guide would ever admit to having known you at all.
Yeah those of us who've actually spent years hunting large game in our youth would only have loved to know to sit behind a bait pile or garbage dump to get that reward of the kill without having to actually perform any of the traditional practices of "hunting".
Gee, if we'd only known that animals attracted using bait or a nearby garbage pile would probably ignore your presence and allow a human to get near it so we could hit it with a sledge hammer then call it hunting......oh wait, we did know that and would have been scorned out of the woods for the rest of our lives by real hunters for engaging in such a practive but this clown has no freak'n idea of what REAL hunting entails to allow bragging rights after a clean kill.
Today's typical hunters hop into a helicopter to run game to death so they'll just stand there on wobbly legs panting while they then shoot them from a hundred years away using a scope. Big frigg'n deal.
Anybody calling this "hunting" is missing the point entirely.
There is a strong possibility that this guy will be facing criminal charges if they can determine the bear suffered needlessly. If I understand correctly, he didn't hang around to see if it was dead, he left and came back the next morning.
Other than looking like an idiot, what as I supposed to say? I'm not impressed with what he's doing, I don't really like what he's doing, but I also just don't care that much. If he ate the bear, whatever. If he didn't, he some ******* who thinks we are impressed with how hardcore he is (no one's impressed).
There are bigger problems to cause uproars with. For example, in this election we see a narcissistic, speak-then-think, whiner with no political experience running against an anti-democratic sociopathic liar. Yet for the most part, we're not really talking about that and instead talking about this or how voting for a third party is such a waste (which is one of the few times when belief actually makes something literally true; if we all said "**** it, I'm voting third party" it would suddenly matter quite a lot).
There are bigger problems to cause uproars with. For example, in this election we see a narcissistic, speak-then-think, whiner with no political experience running against an anti-democratic sociopathic liar. Yet for the most part, we're not really talking about that and instead talking about this or how voting for a third party is such a waste (which is one of the few times when belief actually makes something literally true; if we all said "**** it, I'm voting third party" it would suddenly matter quite a lot).
That's great and everything but this thread is about a jackass eviscerating a bear with a spear. There are several dozen threads on the topic you wish to discuss; try using the search function.
You nailed it friend! This azzclown should be scorned by real hunters as nothing more than an opportunistic glory boy.
Any one of the provincial parks in Canada had lodges, campgrounds, and in the old days logging camps that would typically have a garbage heap and you could sit for hours watching bears come in to root through that pile. Hell, you could hit one with a thrown rock if you desired to.
No self respecting hunter calling himself that would resort to baiting large game. "Calling" of Elk and Moose was scorned by the old time sport hunters until that became an artform of it's own in the late 50's ad early sixties.
Those hunting for food were allowed some leeway in the past but sport hunters required the full stalk' to occur before awarding any bragging rights to a hunter. If you'd shortcut the process by hiding behind a trash heap you'd have been laughed out of the bush for the rest of your life and no guide would ever admit to having known you at all.
You need to do some Google fu and look at how many guides, in Canada plus here in the states, offer guided bear hunts over bait.
Like it or dislike it, it's a legal way to hunt bear in many places. The same way some states allow baiting for deer while others don't.
Oh, where are helicopters legally used to hunt big game? I know in Alaska you can't hunt for your target animal the day you fly in, although predator hunting, primarily wolves, from the air is allowed.
Yeah those of us who've actually spent years hunting large game in our youth would only have loved to know to sit behind a bait pile or garbage dump to get that reward of the kill without having to actually perform any of the traditional practices of "hunting".
Gee, if we'd only known that animals attracted using bait or a nearby garbage pile would probably ignore your presence and allow a human to get near it so we could hit it with a sledge hammer then call it hunting......oh wait, we did know that and would have been scorned out of the woods for the rest of our lives by real hunters for engaging in such a practive but this clown has no freak'n idea of what REAL hunting entails to allow bragging rights after a clean kill.
Today's typical hunters hop into a helicopter to run game to death so they'll just stand there on wobbly legs panting while they then shoot them from a hundred years away using a scope. Big frigg'n deal.
Anybody calling this "hunting" is missing the point entirely.
If you actually were a hunter, particularly of bears, you'd actually know that hunting over bait is both legal in many states, and a preferred way to hunt. It offers the best chance to check out the particular animal at the bait, and to pass a shot if say it's a female, particularly with cubs around. And it's still far from easy-in spite of bait, bears have a great sense of smell and respectable hearing. Getting within 15 yards to make a clean shot is an accomplishment, rather with a spear or a bow. Oh and for all the numnuts complaining about it being "staged" because it was filmed, hunting trips are filmed all the time. It's very common to hunt with 2 people, especially in Canada where, in many places, a guide is required by law.
Further ignorance in these posts-of course he didn't go up to the bear immediately after the "shot". Only an idiot (or rookie hunter) makes that mistake. You ALWAYS want to let an animal lay down and bleed out, rather than pushing them. An animal that is bleeding but not pursued will usually stay in place and die peacefully. If he's pushed, adrenaline kicks in and they make that extra effort, often getting away from the hunter and dying somewhere he is difficult to follow. After a solid shot there will be a good blood trail to follow, usually with a dead animal at the end of it. Push him and that blood trail goes away. And there is no reason to suspect that he didn't follow and collect that animal. Any reason to believe that he did?
The ignorance of the basics of hunting, yet the need to comment about it...shouldn't be a surprise on this forum I guess.
Oh-the comment about "running game to death from a helicopter" reinforces my point. You have no clue. In no state is that legal. The only people that are even allowed to shoot game animals from a chopper (not run them to death) are state workers or contractors, PAID by the state, to manage predator populations in certain areas. Specifically where the predator population is out of control and destroying the entire ecosystem by killing entire populations of game animals. In my state wolves have largely destroyed our elk herds, and legal hunting (and trapping) don't make a dent in the population. They breed like rabbits, and kill until all the prey is gone. Government shooters from helicopters are used in the Lolo area to try to reduce the numbers, but it's too late and a lost cause.
I've never hunted over bait (or taken a bear for that matter). But I have been lucky enough to take a couple bull elk with a bow. Congrats to that hunter. He took challange to the next level by using a sharp stick THAT HE THREW. Significantly more challenging that bow hunting.
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