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Old 09-06-2016, 03:56 PM
 
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If a "fighting for the working class" liberal wants to lower temporary worker levels, or take a look a free trade, I can find agreement. I never see a liberal advocating that.
You need to listen carefully:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0XIgEK6heM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR9QdQIKqMc
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Old 09-06-2016, 03:58 PM
 
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You are the people laughed at by anyone with any education in economics.

Wealth inequality is a good thing.
The current levels of wealth and income inequality is catastrophic for the 99%, destroys democracy and IMF studies show it also weakens economic growth as monopolies and vested interests hijack the economy. Keep shilling though.
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Old 09-06-2016, 03:58 PM
 
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You cant have massive income and wealth inequality and democracy. You have to choose. The opinions of the 99% hardly matter at all in American politics. The big money donors decide who will run (who is "viable") and what laws are passed. Thats not democracy. Thats plutocracy. Its time to choose. Submission to the billionaire class or growing a backbone and fighting for workers' rights.
Thats not democracy. Thats plutocracy.
Too many people don't think deep enough to understand that.

There are all these people who worship overpaid executives, when these people have ridden a degree and a university name, which only serves to promote the University and its goal is to sell as many degree for as high a price as it can to as many people as it can, with the delusion that they all will be able to use their "get a job certificate" to get a position to allow them to fleece the business, the people and the nation.
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:00 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The majority of the people on these programs would much rather have jobs which pay them enough to support their families without any help from the government.
Why on earth are they having children they cannot afford to support, and so expect the taxpayers to give up some of their earnings to pay for children they had NO choice in bearing? That's purely selfish and irresponsible.
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:01 PM
 
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Damn folks, living wage is NOT for you to live on your entire life. Even though some lefties believe that, min wage is for my 15 year old son to figure out what making a wage is.....if it goes past 20, (unless he is college) then you have failed as a parent....sorry...and if you are 35 and flipping burgers....well....maybe you are the problem....
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Sure it is....it very clearly talks about the brown signing the wage into effect slightly after the new york governer did...whether or not it was the main reason ashley left, is not my concern...I'm sure it was part of the reasoning. Did the original link say that was the only reason, of course not...

And did you catch this in the LOCAL link: "The measure will not come without a cost. According to the state Department of Finance, a $15 minimum would cost California about $4 billion a year."

Why is that? Businesses leaving maybe?
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Read more here: Jerry Brown signs $15 minimum wage in California | The Sacramento Bee[/LEFT]
My only point was that Breitbart was the link that mentioned the $15 min, the company never gave that as a direct reason for their departure. It appears from other links that the primary reason for leaving was that they were unionizing although that was not the reason provided by the company either.
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The current levels of wealth and income inequality is catastrophic for the 99%,
No, it is not. I don't see catastrophic conditions around me. Do you?

I am doing good myself.
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You are the people laughed at by anyone with any education in economics.

Wealth inequality is a good thing.
If you knew anything about wealth inequality you would understand that it creates an unhealthy economy. That is exactly what 3rd world countries look like, a healthy middle class is key to success.
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:08 PM
 
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You need to listen carefully:
You are cherry picking one issue. True Sanders was against free trade but that was the only thing I agreed with him on economics. He was not opposed to open borders and was socially liberal and completely socialist/communist.
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:09 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Like I said, CEOs pay themselves much more than they are worth because they can.
Actually, they don't. The Board of Directors negotiates an employment contract with the CEO, which stipulates compensation.

And guess who elects the Board of Directors? The shareholders. And guess who the shareholders are? The millions of American workers and retirees I told everyone reading this thread about, who have a total of $27 Trillion invested in their pension/retirement accounts.
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