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Old 10-12-2016, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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Yes, they absolutely would.
In 2007, Putin informed the Western world that Russia will develop a secret weapon to counter US advances. This was said in response to the US missile defense system that was being developed at the time (previously prohibited in international law.) Russia’s counter-measure weapon is now almost complete. With the NATO missile defense system on Russia’s doorstep – the threat to international security is very real; not that you would know it via mainstream Murdoch media.
In 2002, the United States unilaterally and without consultation, withdrew from the landmark Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty. President George W. Bush noted that the treaty is “now behind us,” describing the ABM Treaty as a Cold War relic.
Signed in 1972, the ABM Treaty barred both the US and the USSR from deploying national defenses against long-range ballistic missiles. The treaty was based on the premise that if either superpower constructed a strategic defense, the other would build up its offensive nuclear forces to offset the defense.
The superpowers would therefore quickly be put on a path toward a never-ending offensive-defensive arms race, as each tried to balance its counterpart’s actions. Until Bush took office, the Treaty was referred to as a “cornerstone of strategic stability” because it facilitated later agreements, reducing U.S. and Russian strategic nuclear arsenals.
The US, assuming that a weakened Russia will never again be in a position to counter US hegemonic power, proceeded to encroach on Russia’s borders through its manipulation of NATO objectives.
Today, there is no instrument in international law that prevents the possibility of mutually assured destruction. Putin has been sending out warnings for over 10 years, all of which fell on deaf ears.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:28 PM
 
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You have a "my daddy stronger than your dad" childish attitude.
The US won't be able to defeat Russia in the conventional war.
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Depends on where it's fought. In Russia? Zero chance. They'd destroy us. Anywhere else in Europe or Asia? Very doubtful. It's all about logistics, and we don't have the capacity to transport and supply an army large enough to defeat Russia all the way across the world fast enough to win before they overran us.
Russia is just Mexico with nukes. Period.

Too; Russia's pop is less than half of the US's.
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Old 10-13-2016, 12:45 AM
 
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Putin's Ultimatum (from 5:35 mark) :
OK thats hilarious.

As for "secret weapons" we should all fear. The US is legendary for them as well, in fact, we used them to end the last major war we were in.

Seriously, if Putin thinks threatening us is going to work, he has vastly misunderstood us.
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Old 10-13-2016, 02:06 AM
 
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You losers have lost the country. Face it. The country is changing demographically and you losers are becoming less and less relevant.
Ummmmm. 66% of the US is still white. Not counting the white Asians and the European white looking Hispanics. I'm thinking it's 75 to 80% whitey.

There's 240,000,000 whiteys
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Old 10-13-2016, 02:12 AM
 
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Lol, it has nothing to do with war preps. The high-ups in the Russian government have been under constant criticism from the public for their lifestyle living abroad, while not addressing domestic issues at home. If you read Russian news, this is an informal request and it is for nothing more than public relations.

The political elite also get hit on medical service, sending themselves and their family to Germany for treatment, but neglecting the healthcare industry in Russia.

These things have been going on for so long, it is basically a running joke there.
That's true too. I think it's the suggested urgency, in the call to return home, that is raising a few eyebrows. Putin has been pissed at Clinton since their 2011 demonstrations. You'd think we would have patched things up by now, but noooo.
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Old 10-13-2016, 07:30 AM
 
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The rumor is Obama is going to provoke Russia and start WW3 around the time of the big dump on HRC.
Stupidist thing this country will ever do if they do this!
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Old 10-13-2016, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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We should not allow Russian threats to manipulate our Presidential election.
No, we shouldn't allow that. We also shouldn't allow the media, the federal government, the president, and the Department of Justice to collude with their favorite beast to win an election, either, but that's what's happening.
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Old 10-13-2016, 08:26 AM
 
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"Russian president Vladimir Putin's administration issued an informal request for Russian officials abroad to return home, but not because they believe war is imminent."

http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/12/put...als-to-return/
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Old 10-13-2016, 08:43 AM
 
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Article says they've installed bunkers for 14 million Moscovites.
How is that possible? 14 million hunkered down underground???
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Old 10-13-2016, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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John Kerry is meeting with the Russian foreign minister in Switzerland this weekend, I have not seen this in any major papers. I assume Putin is just playing games again.
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