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Old 10-25-2016, 10:17 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Why stand up for this ever-reliable charlatan? Despite O'Keefe's protestations otherwise, he only targets Moderates to Liberals, never Conservatives, & certainly never the people who pay him to shill for the Right.

Evidence is evidence - but O'Keefe wouldn't know the difference anymore if the Spear of Destiny pierced his side (or @ least burst into flame upon contact).

It's not possible to hold up the excreta (the so-called Veritas video) & polish them. Knowing they come from O'Keefe &/or his minions, there is no test that would convince me. & until O'Keefe produces decades of solid investigative work, reliably & without bias, he'll never convince the MSM nor anyone else of his bona fides either.
We've now got a MSM that HAD all of what you say you require and yet they've tossed all of that out the window and have become noting more that what you accuse O'Keefe of. I suspect that no matter who the source you would still deny that it's real but either way you will NEVER EVER see this kind of report in the MSM as they've chosen a side and it isn't informing the public.

People are willing to accept the supposition that it was Russia that hacked the DNC/Podesta emails, any of the accusations based on the FLIMSIEST of evidence but toss anything negative about the DNC/Hillary out of hand, even if it's on VIDEO/Audio/Writing.
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Old 10-25-2016, 10:33 AM
 
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This is devastating.

Hillary was just proven to have violated campaign finance laws.
Where is the goofball congressman Gowdy on this?

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Old 10-25-2016, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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They have video of video of the Democrat head goon saying they pay the homeless and union goons to cause trouble at Trump rallies. That's about as clear cut as it gets.

This is a great example for the thread about "truth" regarding how there are no facts or truth when politics and ideology are concerned.



Yes, but what was the context in which the Democrat head goon said he paid homeless guys and union goons to cause trouble at Trump rallies?


Besides, these are just federal campaign laws and if Hillary wants to violate them you can't hold her accountable for that just because you hate women.

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Old 10-25-2016, 10:47 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Back in the USSR, don't know how lucky you are

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We've now got a MSM that HAD all of what you say you require and yet they've tossed all of that out the window and have become noting more that what you accuse O'Keefe of. I suspect that no matter who the source you would still deny that it's real but either way you will NEVER EVER see this kind of report in the MSM as they've chosen a side and it isn't informing the public.

People are willing to accept the supposition that it was Russia that hacked the DNC/Podesta emails, any of the accusations based on the FLIMSIEST of evidence but toss anything negative about the DNC/Hillary out of hand, even if it's on VIDEO/Audio/Writing.
Nope, what's required is evidence. O'Keefe specializes in hidden-camera work, editing, out-of-sequence. Again: Who has been prosecuted, found guilty, paid fines, restitution, gone to prison because of O'Keefe's little morality plays? (Trick question - O'Keefe himself & some of his crew have been found guilty, paid fines, had to apologize to the injured, paid restitution.)

I don't accuse O'Keefe, I'm just reporting what various courts, judges, Congress, several Attorney Generals (CA, TX, & more - just look up O'Keefe & his collaborators in any standard reference online), newspapers, individual Congressmen & Senators, MSM - after raucous investigations have reported out. ACORN was gutted (the sole intent, as far as I can tell), their funding pulled, even though they'd done nothing to warrant that - it was all ballyhoo from O'Keefe & people ideologically opposed to ACORN. The same for the Planned Parenthood alleged sale of fetal tissues - laboring under false pretenses, & some states have pulled PP funding (again, the sole intent, AFAICT), even though again, no crimes were committed.

The MSM in the US don't have a side, other than themselves. & it's not unitary, it's not a single entity (not yet - although the trend is to narrower & narrower ownership of all the big nets - good of you to notice. That is a problem - especially in what is still formally considered to be a republic.)

Yah, someone hacked the DNC/Podesta e-mails. The tactics smell like the KGB's disinformation tactics, & who do we know that used to be @ KGB? A 16-year career veteran, Lt. Col.? Putin? Who specialized in keeping foreigners under scrutiny, & trying to recruit them, by fair means or foul. & why does the Trump cozy up to this killer/blackmailer/bully? It's the art of the deal - what's in it for Trump?
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Old 10-25-2016, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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This should be devastating, but no one is talking about this folks. It is insane, besides 2 guys I know, no one else either knows or cares about this.

You guys around heard the term sheeple? Really, we are alive, we do what is necessary to survive, we have entertainment, but yet we are like brain dead.

Imagine if this was flip flopped, it was the Republicans doing this, can you imagine the onslaught by CNN and MSNBC and that crazy Turkish guy on youtube! And rightfully so. This is insanely not ok. The people on the video know what they are doing, some of them even felt guilt. And yet some of them didn't give darn.
The media is owned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOuf69G7AQU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1inxkqmD7jc

This is who Hillary and the establishment Republicans are owned by and work for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZXSao-MDDI

1938 Interrogation Bared Illuminati Jewish Conspiracy - henrymakow.com

Stalin's Formal Communism (Bonapartism) cf Trotsky's Real Communism

This is what "they" did to Russia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcAPJ-kn8Vs
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Old 10-25-2016, 10:56 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Nope, what's required is evidence. O'Keefe specializes in hidden-camera work, editing, out-of-sequence. Again: Who has been prosecuted, found guilty, paid fines, restitution, gone to prison because of O'Keefe's little morality plays? (Trick question - O'Keefe himself & some of his crew have been found guilty, paid fines, had to apologize to the injured, paid restitution.)

I don't accuse O'Keefe, I'm just reporting what various courts, judges, Congress, several Attorney Generals (CA, TX, & more - just look up O'Keefe & his collaborators in any standard reference online), newspapers, individual Congressmen & Senators, MSM - after raucous investigations have reported out. ACORN was gutted (the sole intent, as far as I can tell), their funding pulled, even though they'd done nothing to warrant that - it was all ballyhoo from O'Keefe & people ideologically opposed to ACORN. The same for the Planned Parenthood alleged sale of fetal tissues - laboring under false pretenses, & some states have pulled PP funding (again, the sole intent, AFAICT), even though again, no crimes were committed.

The MSM in the US don't have a side, other than themselves. & it's not unitary, it's not a single entity (not yet - although the trend is to narrower & narrower ownership of all the big nets - good of you to notice. That is a problem - especially in what is still formally considered to be a republic.)

Yah, someone hacked the DNC/Podesta e-mails. The tactics smell like the KGB's disinformation tactics, & who do we know that used to be @ KGB? A 16-year career veteran, Lt. Col.? Putin? Who specialized in keeping foreigners under scrutiny, & trying to recruit them, by fair means or foul. & why does the Trump cozy up to this killer/blackmailer/bully? It's the art of the deal - what's in it for Trump?
Yes, unfortunately no matter how much one might want to protest the MSM has IN FACT chosen a side and it's become very apparent to anyone who's been watching their coverage (or lack thereof).

This, while a bit "salty" in language covers it pretty well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpLAzAZXi2A
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Old 10-25-2016, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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Related- We Have De Facto Communism and Bella Dodd: The NWO is Communism
http://henrymakow.com/2016/04/we-hav...communism.html

http://henrymakow.com/160303.html

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Old 10-25-2016, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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We've now got a MSM that HAD all of what you say you require and yet they've tossed all of that out the window and have become noting more that what you accuse O'Keefe of. I suspect that no matter who the source you would still deny that it's real but either way you will NEVER EVER see this kind of report in the MSM as they've chosen a side and it isn't informing the public.

People are willing to accept the supposition that it was Russia that hacked the DNC/Podesta emails, any of the accusations based on the FLIMSIEST of evidence but toss anything negative about the DNC/Hillary out of hand, even if it's on VIDEO/Audio/Writing.
These are not just any videos. These videos are from a source that has a proven track record of doctoring videos and knowingly portraying situations different from what they are in reality for political gain.

FWIW, I don't take Hillary's word that it was Russia that hacked the DNC. On the other had has anyone challenged the assertion that the intelligence community believes it was the Russians.
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Old 10-25-2016, 07:12 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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These are not just any videos. These videos are from a source that has a proven track record of doctoring videos and knowingly portraying situations different from what they are in reality for political gain.

FWIW, I don't take Hillary's word that it was Russia that hacked the DNC. On the other had has anyone challenged the assertion that the intelligence community believes it was the Russians.
While I agree with you that O'Keefe has taken "liberties" in the editing room in the past, these current clips are clearly not edited to say something the speaker wasn't truly saying AND context really couldn't logically be anything other than what the person is saying.
It's pretty clear what the speaker is talking about and asking to be done, no ambiguity at all really.
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Old 10-26-2016, 07:00 AM
 
Location: United States
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While I agree with you that O'Keefe has taken "liberties" in the editing room in the past, these current clips are clearly not edited to say something the speaker wasn't truly saying AND context really couldn't logically be anything other than what the person is saying.
It's pretty clear what the speaker is talking about and asking to be done, no ambiguity at all really.
The videos speak for themselves, and the dems that have taken the time to watch them know it.

The truth is that very few dems have actually seen the videos, and are talking out of their backsides when they try to discredit them.
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